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GP2 UPDATE NEWS

Jeff Johns

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by Jeff Johns » Tue, 04 Feb 1997 04:00:00

The GP2 UPDATE will be called..........

FORMULA ONE by PSYGNOSIS!

Seeya,
A Disappointed GP2 Player.
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Jeff Johnson
Tommotek WA P/L                         PH:  619 409 6500
Digital Geometry Unit                   FAX: 619 409 9349

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Andreas Mikkelse

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by Andreas Mikkelse » Tue, 04 Feb 1997 04:00:00


> The GP2 UPDATE will be called..........

> FORMULA ONE by PSYGNOSIS!

> Seeya,
> A Disappointed GP2 Player.
> =========================================================
> Jeff Johnson
> Tommotek WA P/L                         PH:  619 409 6500
> Digital Geometry Unit                   FAX: 619 409 9349

> Unit 8/10 O'Connor Way
> WANGARA
> WESTERN AUSTRALIA 6065

> "Unce, tice, fee times a mady" - Buh Weet Sings!
> =========================================================

Afraid not (-:
Daniel Desland

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by Daniel Desland » Tue, 04 Feb 1997 04:00:00

When will it see the light of day?? I'm very anxious...
I want more and more and more F1 games!! :))



>The GP2 UPDATE will be called..........

>FORMULA ONE by PSYGNOSIS!

>Seeya,
>A Disappointed GP2 Player.
>=========================================================
>Jeff Johnson
>Tommotek WA P/L                         PH:  619 409 6500
>Digital Geometry Unit                   FAX: 619 409 9349

>Unit 8/10 O'Connor Way
>WANGARA
>WESTERN AUSTRALIA 6065

>"Unce, tice, fee times a mady" - Buh Weet Sings!
>=========================================================

Don Mullin

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by Don Mullin » Wed, 05 Feb 1997 04:00:00


> The GP2 UPDATE will be called..........

> FORMULA ONE by PSYGNOSIS!

> Seeya,
> A Disappointed GP2 Player.
> =========================================================
> Jeff Johnson
> Tommotek WA P/L                         PH:  619 409 6500
> Digital Geometry Unit                   FAX: 619 409 9349

> Unit 8/10 O'Connor Way
> WANGARA
> WESTERN AUSTRALIA 6065

> "Unce, tice, fee times a mady" - Buh Weet Sings!
> =========================================================

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Jeff Salzma

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by Jeff Salzma » Thu, 06 Feb 1997 04:00:00



>The GP2 UPDATE will be called..........

>FORMULA ONE by PSYGNOSIS!

I hope not. F1 by Psygnosis is a nice arcade game. You like the
in-the-cockpit view in GP2?? Tough. You ain't getting it. I won't even
start on the so-called "setups" the program claims to offer.....

The AI sucks too.

Enjoy!


The other stuff is for preventing spammage. Thanks!          

SimRaci

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by SimRaci » Sun, 09 Feb 1997 04:00:00

I think he was talking about the PC version...I think Psygnosis will
have a ligitimate contender for the F1-sim crown...and I'm not talking
PSX either!!  ;)

Best Regards,

Marc

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing News - USA
http://members.aol.com/simracing

Derek Murra

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by Derek Murra » Mon, 10 Feb 1997 04:00:00





>>The GP2 UPDATE will be called..........

>>FORMULA ONE by PSYGNOSIS!

>I hope not. F1 by Psygnosis is a nice arcade game. You like the
>in-the-cockpit view in GP2?? Tough. You ain't getting it. I won't even
>start on the so-called "setups" the program claims to offer.....

>The AI sucks too.

>Enjoy!


>The other stuff is for preventing spammage. Thanks!          

have to agree with you, F1 is a good arcade game, but it is not even in
the same league as an unfinished GP2.
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Derek Murray
Fife/Scotland

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SimRaci

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by SimRaci » Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Geez...You guys are still talking about the PSX version, while
the PC one hasn't been released yet.  ~:-|

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing News - USA

Randy Magrud

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by Randy Magrud » Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:00:00


>have to agree with you, F1 is a good arcade game, but it is not even in
>the same league as an unfinished GP2.

Yes it is, if only because the F1 tracks are the 1995 tracks, and they
are proportionately correct, not the squished up little suckers in
GP2.  That goes for track dimensions, and true-to-life graphics of the
real thing.  I can give you a ton of examples, but I will say that
driving around in choppy ole GP2 certainly doesn't look or feel like
I'm driving on any Formula One track.

Randy

Ken Barr

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by Ken Barr » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00



>Yes it is, if only because the F1 tracks are the 1995 tracks, and they
>are proportionately correct, not the squished up little suckers in
>GP2.  That goes for track dimensions, and true-to-life graphics of the
>real thing.  I can give you a ton of examples, but I will say that
>driving around in choppy ole GP2 certainly doesn't look or feel like
>I'm driving on any Formula One track.

>Randy

Obviously you dont have a PC thats up to the job.  Mind you, I've
played it on a DX4/100 and it's still a great simulator.  Note I
didn't say game.   I also have the PSX  F1 and after playing every
track once, I've never gone back to it.  It's just an arcade game and
will never be anything else.  As for the sounds,  they really go for
you after a while.  Like bees in a bottle.  Nothing like real GP cars.
The m***is:  if you want to play games, stick to the PSX,  if you
want a real driving experience, then GP2 is still by far the best.
The only guys who seem to disagree are those who just cant play GP2 on
the PC.   It's too difficult for them......  :-))
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Randy Magrud

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by Randy Magrud » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00


>>Yes it is, if only because the F1 tracks are the 1995 tracks, and they
>>are proportionately correct, not the squished up little suckers in
>>GP2.  That goes for track dimensions, and true-to-life graphics of the
>>real thing.  I can give you a ton of examples, but I will say that
>>driving around in choppy ole GP2 certainly doesn't look or feel like
>>I'm driving on any Formula One track.

>>Randy

>Obviously you dont have a PC thats up to the job.  

I have a P-133.

What F1 track does GP2 come even close to simulating accurately?
Saying F1 is "just an arcade game" is a pretty extremist statement.
That would be like me saying that GP2 has so many bugs its unplayable.
Neither statement is completely true.  The driving model in F1 is
darned good, and the fact that the elevation changes and banking of
the real tracks are there is excellent, as are the look and driving
feel of F1's high speed curves.  Try driving Spa in both of them and
tell me you think GP2 nailed it anywhere close to accurately -- not.

Which is funny because Psygnosis says the recording came from a DAT
recorder strapped to an F1 drivers' body?  I guess digital just isn't
good enough for you.

In other words, if you can't make your point effectively, act
condescending with the person you disagree with.  I've spent way more
hours with GP2 than I care to admit, as well as ICR2, ICR2-3D, NASCAR
1 and NASCAR 2.  There are those on the group who recognize me from
various Internet and Hawaii racing leagues, so please spare me your
condescension.  GP2's biggest flaw, in my book, is the tracks.  Where
F1 spent the time and money painstakingly creating the tracks from the
official surveyors' guides and video footage, I have NO idea what
Crammond uses.  I've talked to Bizarre Creations about this and they
were puzzled as well.  I'd have to say that for modelling an F1 car,
GP2 is by far superior to F1.  No arguments.  But in terms of
modelling F1 tracks and F1 races, GP2 can't hold a candle to F1.  Its
really just that simple...neither one is ideal, but I tend to enjoy
the racing more in F1 than GP2.    A pity Crammond and Psygnosis
couldn't get together and do a 3D-accelerated GP2 using Psygnosis'
excellent tracks!

Randy

SimRaci

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by SimRaci » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00

Uh, oh...

I noticed that too...FWIW, GP2 can be refered to as a "sim", but to
actually label it a "simulator" is going a bit far...Need an example?
How about hitting a wall at around 30Kph - little (if any) damage.
Sure, there are damage editors out there, but anything like a 3rd-
party utility is simply a hack.  (Hmmm...getting warm in here...)

Also, there isn't any force-feedback (the change in my pockets stays
there when I get airborne<g>), and I can't remember hearing anything
other than my own engine when playing the game...er..."sim".  Plenty
of other things I could mention, but the point is, it's still a game.

 (pzzzzzzzzzzzztttt!!!  >>sound of zipper on fire-retardent suit<<)

F1 (PSX) wasn't meant to be anything else.  I also have it, and I have
a good time playing it...It has its place, but when it comes down to the
serious stuff...

Oh, I dunno about that...Spend much time in a real F1 lately?  Keep
in mind that I'm not (intentionally) trying to flame, but after several
years aboard a Ducatti in AMA, evrything else starts to sound like
buzzing bees.  Ever wonder why some drivers wear ear-plugs?  I
wear them so I don't have to listen to an inline-4.<g>

If you want a "real" driving experience, then go to Skip Barber, or
another driving school - Learn the ropes, then go racing!!  :)

I'm not going to disagree that GP2 is a great "sim", but I do understand
its (and my) limits.  No matter what "turns your crank" - whether it's
F1 (PSX), GP2, Wipe-Out, or Pac Man - If it feels good, then play it.  :)

See ya' on the track...  ;)

Best Regards,

L8BRKR

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing News - USA
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Mark McCa

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by Mark McCa » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00

(Snip)

Hmmmmmm....so what would you rather have Randy?  A more acurate track
or a more acurate car?

Personally I'll gladly put up with a few Inaccuracies  in the track
for the trill that is involved when driving GP2 with my wheel and
pedal set-up.

GP2 - great  Sim!!
F1 - great(?) Game

Mark McCall

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Greg Cisk

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by Greg Cisk » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00



Just about all of them I think. And this was one of the things I liked
about GP2.
You can watch the F1 races on ESPN2 & know exactly where the cars are.
Also, Jaques V. learned many of the track layouts with GP2. ect...

IMHO you are wrong here :-)

SimRaci

GP2 UPDATE NEWS

by SimRaci » Fri, 21 Feb 1997 04:00:00

OK...were comparing apples and oranges here...Let's all wait for
the PC version.  :)

Marc


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