rec.autos.simulators

by **Doug Hoo** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:56:47

UNINSTALL GPL??? KILL THE HERETIC!!! KILL HIM NOW BEFORE HE SPREADS HIS EVIL
THOUGHTS TO THE REST OF THE GROUP !!!! ;-)

by **Doug Hoo** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:57:35

Should have scrolled down and read your reply before I did. lol

> Sacrilege! Stone the blasphemer!!!

> ;o)

> > If Doug does the physics for the F1 77 mod and they include
> > enough historic tracks, I may end up uninstalling GPL as well.

> > Jason

by **Doug Hoo** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:01:03

The programming of the mod probably has a lot to do with it looking so real
but your system specs are probably really helping too. ;-)

(OH Santa please bring me a 9700 this year !!!)

> I was on Brands tonight....and without a shadow of a doubt it is the most
> relalistic looking sim ever.

> My three mates,and two parents were watching and kept saying it looks
> real....and the parents are not computer people.

> I had everything on FULL and was running 1280 x 960 x 32bit.

> 9700 Pro
> 512 DDR
> Win XP

> Awesome mod...just awesome.

> AD

> > Actually Frank, it comes with some new tracks. I think even you might
> > like it. ;o)

> > > The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(

> > > --
> > > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
> > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> > > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Dave Coo** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:33:35

INCREDIBLE Track!!!

by **Jason Moy** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:51:32

Whoa there, unless a new '67 sim comes out I wouldn't count on it. =)

Jason

by **Jason Moy** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:59:19

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:25:26 -0500, "ymenard"

>The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(

I deleted all of the tracks that weren't used in the championship for
the GT mod (well, and the rest of the F1 content...). That leaves 7
stunning tracks that are pretty accurately modelled, and 3 of the
lesser flawed original tracks. Silverstone and Spa aren't too bad,
and Magny Cours is ok except for the second set of esses (which, for
some reason, are completely flat) and the incredibly odd pit
entrance/last turn.

Just did some laps at Spa in the Lister. Eau Rouge flat-out is
properly scary and a very nice threading the needle moment, even with
the neutral/tight default setup. Of course, if you set up the car so
it actually turns everywhere else on the track, you can kiss the
backend goodbye coming over the hill. =)

Jason

by **ymenar** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 13:55:54

> Actually Frank, it comes with some new tracks. I think even you might
> like it. ;o)

Oh! o_O

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **ymenar** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:01:29

> I deleted all of the tracks that weren't used in the championship for
> the GT mod (well, and the rest of the F1 content...). That leaves 7
> stunning tracks that are pretty accurately modelled, and 3 of the
> lesser flawed original tracks. Silverstone and Spa aren't too bad,

Ack. Silverstone is very bad. It's not "I won't race there it's so bad
like the A1-Ring" bad, but ISI should really put some efforts. How hard can
it be? :( Spa is average, yeah. It's just that the track builders
give themselves too much freedom, and start putting stuff or changing stuff
to their free willing. They see an empty spot, and try to "fill it" so that
it doesn't look empty even if it's really empty in real life (well empty as
in, a forest or an elevation that looks into the sky for the most part).
They change the layout because they think it will fit the filling space they
aren't sure of.

ISI seriously only has the track to do and the multi for the most part.
It's pretty much put down now. We can edit everything else (including the
physics).

But there is ABSOLUTELY no connection between them and us. No communication
whatsoever :(

The track camber is really off, but that's a problem with about every sim
that tries to model Magny-Cours. Even F1RC.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Joe M** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:16:43

Doug, there's no such thing as Santa, you better buy one. Ah, I'm just
pissed because Santa isn't bringing me a 9700. Bah-humbug! ;0)

--
Joe M.

> The programming of the mod probably has a lot to do with it looking so
real
> but your system specs are probably really helping too. ;-)

> (OH Santa please bring me a 9700 this year !!!)

> > I was on Brands tonight....and without a shadow of a doubt it is the
most
> > relalistic looking sim ever.

> > My three mates,and two parents were watching and kept saying it looks
> > real....and the parents are not computer people.

> > I had everything on FULL and was running 1280 x 960 x 32bit.

> > 9700 Pro
> > 512 DDR
> > Win XP

> > Awesome mod...just awesome.

> > AD

> > > Actually Frank, it comes with some new tracks. I think even you might
> > > like it. ;o)

> > > > The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(

> > > > --
> > > > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > > > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
> > > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> > > > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Carl Ribbegaard** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 15:27:01

Well it's from SBK2001 right?
SBK2001 is one of the best looking games i've seen.

/Carl

by **Jussi 'Igor' Koukk** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 16:38:22

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:43:37 -0800, "Dale Green"

LOL... or maybe they are having a party as the original game's sales
are going up again ;-)
--
- Igor -

by **Jone Tytlandsvi** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:31:24

I don't think so. I think they are proud that their physics engine are
capable of doing this, and that the system is open and can be edited. EA did
share technical information about the new formats with simbin even before F1
2002 was released. And the F1 cars might not be as good as we wish because
of limited time, or the ones that makes decisions at EA might have been
thinking that F1 2002 would not sell more if the car modeling was refined,
so why spend more man-hours? That doesn't mean that the individual
programmer should feel ashamed, they delivered a fine product. The physics
model is probably good because the programmers take pride in their work, and
because their bosses don't have full insight into what exactly they are
doing and what's necessary (for good sales) and not, early in the process.
:)
I think it's outstanding that they have made such a fine sim.
After all the market is kids, grandparents (gift for kids), a few grown up's
that drive a few laps twice a year, and a tiny group of serious simracers.
But netcode would be fine.....

Jone.

by **Matt Lark** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 22:38:27

No ADSL - what do I do??????? (They haven't fitted out my exchange
yet, it's not that I haven't bought ADSL!)

I'm sure as hell not tieing the phone line up for a day or so to
d'load - is anyone offering a CD burn of the mod to ship in the UK?

I'll pay........

Matt

by **Steve Blankenshi** » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:16:47

Ditto on this one; GTR2002 is good because the game engine allows it to be,
and you have ISI to thank for that. Commercial developers and publishers
have a lot more on the line than groups like SBDT, and have a lot broader
market to serve. All you really need to do is compare NT2003 to GTR2002 to
see the result. Kudo's to ISI as well as SBDT.

SB

by **Aide** » Thu, 05 Dec 2002 00:12:52

Matt...where are you in UK..?

AD

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