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GP3 - Throtle always on?

N..

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by N.. » Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:26:21 +0100, "Lee Armstrong"

Hmmm...I'll have to go out and test this in my real car now. :-)

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Paulinh

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Paulinh » Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:00:00

It`s a BIG bug, it does it on my Logitech... it also makes the down shift
slow, as well as brakes bad !!

Joona Vaini

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Joona Vaini » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00


> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:26:21 +0100, "Lee Armstrong"

> >It is normal for all cars to do it, just think first gear is engaged and the
> >engine is turning!

> Hmmm...I'll have to go out and test this in my real car now. :-)

Does your real car have 800 HP, idle revs in the thousands, and a
shitload of torque? :-)

Actually, my wussy 323F/Astina GT with mere 135 HP does just that when I
declutch. And it's idle revs are only around 700.

-lark-

Peter Coo

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Peter Coo » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Not too sure of the exact amount, but F1 Engines idle at a very high level >
3000 rpm I believe. An as for accellerating on idle, it is possible to
accellerate in a normal road car without toaching the throttle, change gears
even.....


pez

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by pez » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Put my dads Mercedes C250 auto into drive and it goes without input from the
accel pedal....when you put it in drive you're supposed to be on the
brake....

all autos do it (the toyota auto ive driven did it, as did the c180 merc
auto ive driven)...and semi autos do it as well.....

It aint no bug...its an anti stall measure......if you're in gear, you're
supposed to be moving.....

pez


>Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing
>somewhere?
>The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants
>to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example
>you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back
>around but it won't.

>I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't
>think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas?

>--
>Cheers!
>Graeme Nash

N..

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by N.. » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:54:50 +0000, Joona Vainio

You bet! Nah, actually it's an automatic transmission. 6 cyl. 3.8L.
:-)

OK, then I guess GP3 is more realistic in that area than all other
sims.
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Andy Jone

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Andy Jone » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00

It's not just the MSFF - mu Guilly does it and Graeme posted earlier that
his whole museum of controllers did the same.

Either its a feature of a core game bug.

So what do semi-automatic geraboxes with stall prevention do at the
standstill in 1st ?

Andy




> : Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have
2
> : pedals... :((



> :> it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select
> :> neutral or press the clutch.

>   Wish GP3 throttle always on thing was tickover - it's actually a
> miscallibration problem with MSFF wheels - it thinks you've got the
> throttle part way down all the time.

>   (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with
> tickover).

>   I'm waiting until it works with my hardware until I fully judge GP3
> since callibration split axis and FF don't work properly with my wheel.
> You wouldn't have thought the MSFF was an obscure wheel would you.

> --
> Richard G. Clegg       Only the mind is waving
>     Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
>       Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
>      UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Ian Jarvi

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Ian Jarvi » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I get the same with my Ferrari FF wheel also
IJ


> Not too sure of the exact amount, but F1 Engines idle at a very high level

> 3000 rpm I believe. An as for accellerating on idle, it is possible to
> accellerate in a normal road car without toaching the throttle, change
gears
> even.....



> > Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing
> > somewhere?
> > The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants
> > to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example
> > you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back
> > around but it won't.

> > I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't
> > think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas?

> > --
> > Cheers!
> > Graeme Nash

Richard G Cleg

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Richard G Cleg » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00

: Not too sure of the exact amount, but F1 Engines idle at a very high level >
: 3000 rpm I believe. An as for accellerating on idle, it is possible to
: accellerate in a normal road car without toaching the throttle, change gears
: even.....

  Hm... apologies for saying this was a controller bug - I'd assumed
this because of set up difficulties with the microsoft wheel.  It's
merely pretty stupid.  Bung the car into gear and it chugs off at 11mph.
In reality it would stall or automatically pop the clutch in if it had
some kind of stall prevention.  Damn silly in any case (but the least of
the games faults).

  Has anyone got Microsoft force feedback working?  I can either have NO
forcefeedback ifI don't check Map Y to X or I can have wrong
forcefeedback.  Leave the car stationary in the pits, turn the wheel
left and there's no resistance - turn it right and it feels like there's
a big weight preventing it.

--
Richard G. Clegg       Only the mind is waving
    Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
      Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
     UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Joona Vaini

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Joona Vaini » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


> It`s a BIG bug, it does it on my Logitech... it also makes the down shift
> slow, as well as brakes bad !!

Um... the downshift is SUPPOSED to be slower than in GP2. You can't
actually downshift as fast as you did in GP2 or some other sims. The
transmission and engine couldn't take it.

-lark-

Werner Hube

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Werner Hube » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Same here with my Logitech joystick. I think it's tickover.

Btw I was very happy when I recognized it, because it was the first (and
only?) new feature compared to GP2 :-))

Have fun
Werner


> Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing
> somewhere?
> The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants
> to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example
> you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back
> around but it won't.

> I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't
> think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas?

> --
> Cheers!
> Graeme Nash

Ronald Stoeh

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by Ronald Stoeh » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


> Same here with my Logitech joystick. I think it's tickover.

> Btw I was very happy when I recognized it, because it was the first (and
> only?) new feature compared to GP2 :-))

Then you really need to turn ON your monitor... ;)

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rud..

GP3 - Throtle always on?

by rud.. » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00




> > It`s a BIG bug, it does it on my Logitech...

it also makes the down shift
than in GP2. You can't
some other sims. The

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