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by **GTX_SlotCa** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I know this is off topic, but you'll get a kick out of it. Its a little quiz
and I'll post the answer tomorrow unless someone guesses it before then.

Here's the background. I'm in the state of Maine, USA. My company needed
another truck for odds and ends, so last month we bought a used 1994 Ford
F150 4X4 with 69,000 miles on it. The truck had been in an accident, but
was all redone and repainted. It looks great inside and out. On our test
drive it went great. It doesn't get a lot of use. Also remember its cold in
Maine this time of year. I took it out one cold morning after it had sat for
a couple days. At about 40 mph the steering wheel shook ***ly. I
thought the left, front wheel was coming off. I stopped and checked it out,
but all was well. After a few miles the shaking was less, and eventually
went away almost completely even at 60 mph. The tires are Goodrich steel
belted radials with no cupping or other signs of uneven wear. The next
morning I took it out again, and it shook again, but not so badly and it
went away sooner. The truck sat for a couple days without use. 2 mornings
later I took it out again, and sure enough I thought the wheel was gonna
fall off. *** shaking. But again, after10 miles or so the shaking
lessened and eventually stopped.

We checked the tires in the morning for flat spots (not likely on steel
belted radials) and there were none. The conclusion was that the truck does
this only when it's real cold and comes out of it when it warms up. Usually
its worse when it sits for 2 days than if it just sits for one day. If it
sits for a day, but you don't take it out until after 1 or 2 PM, its not bad
at all. It always comes out of the problem after being run for a few miles.
Sitting for more than 2 days doesn't make it worse than just sitting for 2
days.

Okay gents. What do you think was wrong with it?

Slot

by **Matthias Flat** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Isn't that obvious: You don't have friends? >;-)

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by **Benjam** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

The tires may look great and have few miles but are probably pretty
old.... the cold and the sitting made it hard, and not as flexible as
it normally would be so when you first start rolling it, it's not
quite round due to the part that sits on the ground... once it's been
spinning a while and gets some heat back in it, it softens up and goes
back to it's correct shape.......

If that's wrong I have another guess, but I'll wait.... I had an old
pick'em up that did the same thing, but it's tires were just junk and
it didn't matter what the temperature was.....

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Okay, what's your second guess?

When you guys hear the answer you'll laugh and say 'Of course!!'

Slot

>The tires may look great and have few miles but are probably pretty
>old.... the cold and the sitting made it hard, and not as flexible as
>it normally would be so when you first start rolling it, it's not
>quite round due to the part that sits on the ground... once it's been
>spinning a while and gets some heat back in it, it softens up and goes
>back to it's correct shape.......

>If that's wrong I have another guess, but I'll wait.... I had an old
>pick'em up that did the same thing, but it's tires were just junk and
>it didn't matter what the temperature was.....

>>I know this is off topic, but you'll get a kick out of it. Its a little
quiz
>>and I'll post the answer tomorrow unless someone guesses it before then.

>>Here's the background. I'm in the state of Maine, USA. My company needed
>>another truck for odds and ends, so last month we bought a used 1994 Ford
>>F150 4X4 with 69,000 miles on it. The truck had been in an accident, but
>>was all redone and repainted. It looks great inside and out. On our test
>>drive it went great. It doesn't get a lot of use. Also remember its cold
in
>>Maine this time of year. I took it out one cold morning after it had sat
for
>>a couple days. At about 40 mph the steering wheel shook ***ly. I
>>thought the left, front wheel was coming off. I stopped and checked it
out,
>>but all was well. After a few miles the shaking was less, and eventually
>>went away almost completely even at 60 mph. The tires are Goodrich steel
>>belted radials with no cupping or other signs of uneven wear. The next
>>morning I took it out again, and it shook again, but not so badly and it
>>went away sooner. The truck sat for a couple days without use. 2 mornings
>>later I took it out again, and sure enough I thought the wheel was gonna
>>fall off. *** shaking. But again, after10 miles or so the shaking
>>lessened and eventually stopped.

>>We checked the tires in the morning for flat spots (not likely on steel
>>belted radials) and there were none. The conclusion was that the truck
does
>>this only when it's real cold and comes out of it when it warms up.
Usually
>>its worse when it sits for 2 days than if it just sits for one day. If it
>>sits for a day, but you don't take it out until after 1 or 2 PM, its not
bad
>>at all. It always comes out of the problem after being run for a few
miles.
>>Sitting for more than 2 days doesn't make it worse than just sitting for 2
>>days.

>>Okay gents. What do you think was wrong with it?

>>Slot

by **Phil Le** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Obviously its your fault! You seem to have this sort of effect on steering
wheels.

I think the problem is that the force feedback effects from the 1994 truck
are not using the latest drivers. Try downloading them from www.ford.com or
alternatively you could take the dashboard off and turn the adjustment***
until everything is OK.

Cheers

Phil

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by **GTX_SlotCa** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Hehe. Okay, I didn't make the choice to buy it. That came from the boss.

Slot

>>a used 1994 Ford

>>Okay gents. What do you think was wrong with it?

>Isn't that obvious: You don't have friends? >;-)

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>Matthias Flatt

by **Peter Nilss** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Water freezing inside one of the wheels.

/petern

/

by **Stif** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I used to put water in my tractor tires for weight. I would add calcium to
the water so it would not freeze.
Al Stiff

> >I know this is off topic, but you'll get a kick out of it. Its a little
quiz
> >and I'll post the answer tomorrow unless someone guesses it before then.

> >Here's the background. I'm in the state of Maine, USA. My company needed
> >another truck for odds and ends, so last month we bought a used 1994 Ford
> >F150 4X4 with 69,000 miles on it. The truck had been in an accident, but
> >was all redone and repainted. It looks great inside and out. On our test
> >drive it went great. It doesn't get a lot of use. Also remember its cold
in
> >Maine this time of year. I took it out one cold morning after it had sat
for
> >a couple days. At about 40 mph the steering wheel shook ***ly. I
> >thought the left, front wheel was coming off. I stopped and checked it
out,
> >but all was well. After a few miles the shaking was less, and eventually
> >went away almost completely even at 60 mph. The tires are Goodrich steel
> >belted radials with no cupping or other signs of uneven wear. The next
> >morning I took it out again, and it shook again, but not so badly and it
> >went away sooner. The truck sat for a couple days without use. 2 mornings
> >later I took it out again, and sure enough I thought the wheel was gonna
> >fall off. *** shaking. But again, after10 miles or so the shaking
> >lessened and eventually stopped.

> >We checked the tires in the morning for flat spots (not likely on steel
> >belted radials) and there were none. The conclusion was that the truck
does
> >this only when it's real cold and comes out of it when it warms up.
Usually
> >its worse when it sits for 2 days than if it just sits for one day. If it
> >sits for a day, but you don't take it out until after 1 or 2 PM, its not
bad
> >at all. It always comes out of the problem after being run for a few
miles.
> >Sitting for more than 2 days doesn't make it worse than just sitting for
2
> >days.

> >Okay gents. What do you think was wrong with it?

> >Slot

> Water freezing inside one of the wheels.

> /petern

> /

by **Scott B. Huste** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

They repaired one of the tires with some 'instant tire repair/sealer' and it
would expand when it sat for 2 days?

Scott
PA-Scott
PowerSims.com

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by **ymenar** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

It could be related to something else than your tyres, FYI. There is a
possibility that your suspension gives you a different feeling under a
different temperature, having problems with the springs not absorbing the
road as good as in normal temps, with the components having torso problems
when stressed under low temps.. That's what I read about some Ford cars a
couple of months ago I think, but my memory could fail. Maybe call Ford Co.
and ask them if there was any reports of such a problem with your specific
model?

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how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

by **Stefan Magnusso** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

My guess to.

Stefan

> >I know this is off topic, but you'll get a kick out of it. Its a little quiz
> >and I'll post the answer tomorrow unless someone guesses it before then.

> >Here's the background. I'm in the state of Maine, USA. My company needed
> >another truck for odds and ends, so last month we bought a used 1994 Ford
> >F150 4X4 with 69,000 miles on it. The truck had been in an accident, but
> >was all redone and repainted. It looks great inside and out. On our test
> >drive it went great. It doesn't get a lot of use. Also remember its cold in
> >Maine this time of year. I took it out one cold morning after it had sat for
> >a couple days. At about 40 mph the steering wheel shook ***ly. I
> >thought the left, front wheel was coming off. I stopped and checked it out,
> >but all was well. After a few miles the shaking was less, and eventually
> >went away almost completely even at 60 mph. The tires are Goodrich steel
> >belted radials with no cupping or other signs of uneven wear. The next
> >morning I took it out again, and it shook again, but not so badly and it
> >went away sooner. The truck sat for a couple days without use. 2 mornings
> >later I took it out again, and sure enough I thought the wheel was gonna
> >fall off. *** shaking. But again, after10 miles or so the shaking
> >lessened and eventually stopped.

> >We checked the tires in the morning for flat spots (not likely on steel
> >belted radials) and there were none. The conclusion was that the truck does
> >this only when it's real cold and comes out of it when it warms up. Usually
> >its worse when it sits for 2 days than if it just sits for one day. If it
> >sits for a day, but you don't take it out until after 1 or 2 PM, its not bad
> >at all. It always comes out of the problem after being run for a few miles.
> >Sitting for more than 2 days doesn't make it worse than just sitting for 2
> >days.

> >Okay gents. What do you think was wrong with it?

> >Slot

> Water freezing inside one of the wheels.

> /petern

> /

by **Alan J. Claffi** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

[snip]

Perhaps the suspect tire has been afflicted with a can of "Fix-A-Flat"?

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

You're really cracking me up. Maybe I need more damping ;)

Slot

by **Phil Le** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Look in the glovebox for the service book. On the last page you should find
entries where you can put your own core.ini settings. Try any number from 5
to 4000 until you get one that suits your driving style.

Cheers

Phil

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by **Richard ZZ Busc** » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Then again, it could be the nut behind the wheel :)

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