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Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

Steve Edward

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Steve Edward » Thu, 12 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I tried Kali tonite for first time with Nascar2

was pretty cool when latencies were low.   Anyhow everytime I try to
exit N2 to get back to Win95, system locks up hard.

Any Ideas

Steve

Eric T. Busc

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Eric T. Busc » Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Do you happen to have a Rendition based video card?  There is a known
problem with them and Kali, though I've heard it happens with a few
other cards as well.  Unfortunately there really is no solution other
than rebooting.

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Great Googeley Moogel

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Great Googeley Moogel » Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:00:00



>Do you happen to have a Rendition based video card?  There is a known
>problem with them and Kali, though I've heard it happens with a few
>other cards as well.  Unfortunately there really is no solution other
>than rebooting.


>> I tried Kali tonite for first time with Nascar2

>> was pretty cool when latencies were low.   Anyhow everytime I try to
>> exit N2 to get back to Win95, system locks up hard.

I recently started having the same problem, but my card is a Diamond Stealth
64 VRAM. When I exit NCR2, I get no video. The system hasn't locked up, I can
still start up programs by using the Windows and cursor keys, there's just no
picture. This problem appeared only after I played around with my network
bindings in Win95; so far I haven't been able to fix it. Have you tried using
KaliDOS, to rule out a problem with Win95?

Another problem I have is that my Nascar2 chat has never worked. I can't see
anything I type out, and apparently nobody else can either. Anybody have this
problem?

Lawrence L. Holber

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Lawrence L. Holber » Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:00:00

This is not good ... I'm seeing the same problem and I don't even have to
be hooked up to Kali, just have a Dial-UP Internet connection open.  :(

Mike Grand

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Mike Grand » Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> I tried Kali tonite for first time with Nascar2

> was pretty cool when latencies were low.   Anyhow everytime I try to
> exit N2 to get back to Win95, system locks up hard.

> Any Ideas

> Steve

I seem to have the same problem as well as a few people I know using the
same Reactor card. Hopefully the people at kali or Papyrus will figure
it out. I've found that latency is still a major issue. The few races
I've been able to join on kali were marred with tons of warping.

                                                  Mike G.

Steve Edward

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Steve Edward » Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> I seem to have the same problem as well as a few people I know using the
> same Reactor card. Hopefully the people at kali or Papyrus will figure
> it out. I've found that latency is still a major issue. The few races
> I've been able to join on kali were marred with tons of warping.

>                                                   Mike G.

Mike I had both very good and bad latency races last night, I'd say the
potential is there

Steve

Chris Manes

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Chris Manes » Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:00:00



> > I tried Kali tonite for first time with Nascar2

> > was pretty cool when latencies were low.   Anyhow everytime I try to
> > exit N2 to get back to Win95, system locks up hard.

> > Any Ideas

> > Steve

> I seem to have the same problem as well as a few people I know using the
> same Reactor card. Hopefully the people at kali or Papyrus will figure
> it out. I've found that latency is still a major issue. The few races
> I've been able to join on kali were marred with tons of warping.

>                                                   Mike G.

I've found a(semi)way around the lockup problem with verite chip based
cards (3D blaster, Reactor 3D, Screamin 3D).  If you load the standard
driver (verite 1000 PCI) from win95 for the card, you can run n2 in svga
(cannot get rendition modes to work with this driver through dos box) in
kali without lockups. Msdos mode still works fine for rendetion graphics
. You will also need windows 95 direct draw drivers 3.0 to install
driver. This isn't a fix but you can race without rebooting every time.

                                  Chris

M. Peter Amar

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by M. Peter Amar » Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:00:00

REPLY:
I have a Reactor card and this is an acceptable workaround for me.  Go to a
MS-DOS box from Win95 and run KaliDOS.  It's less convenient than Kali95 but
you can exit N1 and N2 and get back to Kali.  Regular old batch files make it
pretty quick too.

I've tried DMADIAG but all I get is an error message.

Good luck.

MPA

Jim Wagne

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Jim Wagne » Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:00:00



Same problem here, I also have the Reactor card and when I exit N2 my
system locks hard. So far I've only been able to race against one person
and that was because he was the only one who's ping wasn't too high. I
guess my ISP has a slow connection to the net, because it's hard for me to
find someone with a raceworthy ping value.

I have also tried TEN with Quake and it was terrible, way to jumpy,
impossible to play. I don't know how the hell they are going to run N2 on
it.

Blak

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Blak » Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> I tried Kali tonite for first time with Nascar2

> was pretty cool when latencies were low.   Anyhow everytime I try to
> exit N2 to get back to Win95, system locks up hard.

> Any Ideas

> Steve

Change the irq on the modem, might be conflicting with the video card.
M. Peter Amar

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by M. Peter Amar » Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:00:00

If you want to race on Kali and you don't want to give up the superior
rendition graphics, and faster frame rates, then boot up in Win95 and using the
Start button restart in to MS-Dos Mode. You will have to use KaliDOS, which is
less convenient, but you can exit N1 and N2 and go right back to chat without
crashing or rebooting.

MPA

Robert Johnso

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Robert Johnso » Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:00:00



I had a problem getting this to run also.  Something about the stub being
missing?  When I put a copy of DOS4GW.EXE in the same path as Dmadiag, it
seems to work fine.

Dave Bar

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Dave Bar » Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Same problem here.  I'd like to try it with Kahn sometime if anybody
else has it.  I tried running N2 with Kahn95 open and it didn't lock
up when I returned like it does with Kali.  I haven't tried an actual
race though, haven't found anybody on Kahn that has N2.

If it works, maybe we could convince the Where to Race guys to set up
a Kahn server to go along with the Kali server.  The way I understand
it, the Kahn server software is free, and they even give you the
source code.  Would be a nice solution for us poor, DOS bound
rendition users <g>.

David

You're only young once, but you can stay immature forever.

Dave Bar

Kali and Nascar 2 - Help

by Dave Bar » Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:00

That's what I do.  It seems to perform better with DOS Kali anyway.

David

You're only young once, but you can stay immature forever.


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