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OT:Are Dells upgradable?

D

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by D » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:05:55

First, thanks for recent advice on system upgrades.  Now that I'm still
considering ignoring it and getting a Dell :-)  ...

If I *do* get a Dell (5500), are they 100% compatible with off-the-shelf parts
for when I do eventually want to piece-upgrade it?  Most importantly, do they
use standard ATX motherboards?

BTW, anyone know if their MB bios allow oc'ing?  I'll likely get a a P4-2.4
and Dell use's MB's with the 845PE chipset.  

Last, any idea who makes the MB??

Thanks for your assistance,
Dave

Doug Elliso

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Doug Elliso » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:29:16


Probably not

Not likely

Doubt it. Even if they allow it - they wont be great performers and the CPU
cooling wont be up to much and the ram wont like it either.

You'll probably never know.

I couldnt ever advise anyone to buy a PC from a manufacturer like
dell/gateway/tiny etc etc - it doesnt make sense. Building a PC is very easy
( no really - it is - all the bits can just about go together in only one
way ) - Athlons offer a lot of bang per buck - and an nForce 2 motherboard
offerers upgrade paths thru to the Barton core and perform amazingly.
Something like an Athlon 2400+, 512mb Ram, Asus nForce 2 mobo, GF4 Ti4600,
80gb HDD blah blah - you'll have a lot more options for upgrading in the
future - and you'll be able to do it yourself.

Doug

Gerry Aitke

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Gerry Aitke » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:39:30


> Are Dells upgradable?

Yep, throw them in the nearest dustbin and purchase a new system. :)

Gerry

Doug Elliso

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Doug Elliso » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:51:23



> > Are Dells upgradable?

> Yep, throw them in the nearest dustbin and purchase a new system. :)

Thats for a Mac silly.

With a dell - you get to keep the floppy drive, hard drive, keyboard and
mouse

Doug

Dave Coo

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Dave Coo » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:12:50





> > > Are Dells upgradable?

> > Yep, throw them in the nearest dustbin and purchase a new system. :)

> Thats for a Mac silly.

I was lurking in a Mac group the other day and saw a post titled "I've lost all
my files!"  LOL - I'd like to see that on one of their commercials ;P

- Dave

Dave Coo

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Dave Coo » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:17:38


You can find answers to most of your Dell questions at alt.sys.pc-clone.dell

- Dave

Doug Elliso

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Doug Elliso » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:33:04







> > > > Are Dells upgradable?

> > > Yep, throw them in the nearest dustbin and purchase a new system. :)

> > Thats for a Mac silly.

> I was lurking in a Mac group the other day and saw a post titled "I've
lost all
> my files!"  LOL - I'd like to see that on one of their commercials ;P

I had to deal with Macs during my uni course for 3 years.  Never understood
their file structure.

Doug

Dave Coo

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Dave Coo » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:46:33


Coming from a Unix background and being very impressed with the OS X interface I
have to admit that it's enticing to me.  My 12 year old son has to use Mac's at
school though, and he hates them...

- Dave

Morris Jone

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Morris Jone » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:10:17

I have a 2.53 Dell system with a gig of PC800RDRAM,
and the Ti4600 video card, and I have a Dell 1.5 system
that I have upgraded with a 1.9ghz chip and a Ti4600
with no problems, and I plan on sticking the Geforce FX
and a 3.6ghz chip in the newer early next year.




> > First, thanks for recent advice on system upgrades.  Now that I'm still
> > considering ignoring it and getting a Dell :-)  ...

> > If I *do* get a Dell (5500), are they 100% compatible with off-the-shelf
parts
> > for when I do eventually want to piece-upgrade it?  Most importantly, do
they
> > use standard ATX motherboards?

> > BTW, anyone know if their MB bios allow oc'ing?  I'll likely get a a
P4-2.4
> > and Dell use's MB's with the 845PE chipset.

> > Last, any idea who makes the MB??

> > Thanks for your assistance,
> > Dave

> You can find answers to most of your Dell questions at

alt.sys.pc-clone.dell

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Steve Whitt

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Steve Whitt » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:57:29

Do yourself a favour and listen to what the guys here say.  My first pc was
a Packard Bell pentium 150.  When it came to upgrading, all we kept was the
cd, keyboard, hard drive, mouse and monitor.  Actually, I'm still using the
monitor/speakers combo.  Everyting else was useless after the upgrade.
Honestly, building a pc is very very easy. Everything comes with very clear
instructions on how to install it. I don't about where you guys live, but
most computer stores here in Australia, you select the parts you want.  They
charge you their price plus normal markup, and charge roughly $20 to put it
together.  Saves you heaps of money.  When you buy a Brand Name computer,
you have to pay for  the CEO's huge salary and all the companys overheads.
Best of luck with your new system

Steve

D

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by D » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:37:18


>Do yourself a favour and listen to what the guys here say.
>...
>Honestly, building a pc is very very easy.
>...
>Saves you heaps of money.
>Best of luck with your new system

Thanks for the input and wishes.  And thanks to a previous poster for
the Dell ng link.

Oh, btw, I meant model # 4550 (not 5500).

Believe me, I've done the build and upgrade route.  About all that's
left of my original 386 is, well, the floppy drive.  I've been
through 5 CPU's and MB's since.  And I have checked on prices at
newegg, pricewatch, a local reseller with an excellent rep from who'm
I've bought before.  Dell systems are quite competitive.  About all
that they can shortcut on is the MB, so that's why I've been trying to
find out if they do indeed shortcut there.

And sometimes, it appears they may beat what you can get.  Right now
they have the ATI 9700 (non-Pro) as a $140 upgrade on the crappy G4
MX420.  Pricewatch has a best price of $250.

So, I thought instead of buying ump*** components from a bunch of
different resellers, and crossing my fingers (yet again) that all
works out, I'd consider trying a different approach.  Not that Dell is
a sure thing.

Thanks to all for the feedback (and yes, it's in part to get back into
auto sims like F1/GTR 2002).

Gerry Aitke

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Gerry Aitke » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:23:52





> > > Are Dells upgradable?

> > Yep, throw them in the nearest dustbin and purchase a new system. :)

> Thats for a Mac silly.

> With a dell - you get to keep the floppy drive, hard drive, keyboard and
> mouse

Is all that stuff removable? I thought it was all nailed to the MB? :)
erace

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by erace » Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:28:36

I'm going to have to agree with DM.  I've owned several Dell's, and I have
upgraded various components over their lifetimes.  When it gets to the point
where I have to upgrade the CPU, the other components are so backdated that
it's easier just to replace the entire system.   Also, while I don't look
down upon those people who want to build their own systems, I'd rather have
one phone number to call if something goes wrong..




> >Do yourself a favour and listen to what the guys here say.
> >...
> >Honestly, building a pc is very very easy.
> >...
> >Saves you heaps of money.
> >Best of luck with your new system

> Thanks for the input and wishes.  And thanks to a previous poster for
> the Dell ng link.

> Oh, btw, I meant model # 4550 (not 5500).

> Believe me, I've done the build and upgrade route.  About all that's
> left of my original 386 is, well, the floppy drive.  I've been
> through 5 CPU's and MB's since.  And I have checked on prices at
> newegg, pricewatch, a local reseller with an excellent rep from who'm
> I've bought before.  Dell systems are quite competitive.  About all
> that they can shortcut on is the MB, so that's why I've been trying to
> find out if they do indeed shortcut there.

> And sometimes, it appears they may beat what you can get.  Right now
> they have the ATI 9700 (non-Pro) as a $140 upgrade on the crappy G4
> MX420.  Pricewatch has a best price of $250.

> So, I thought instead of buying ump*** components from a bunch of
> different resellers, and crossing my fingers (yet again) that all
> works out, I'd consider trying a different approach.  Not that Dell is
> a sure thing.

> Thanks to all for the feedback (and yes, it's in part to get back into
> auto sims like F1/GTR 2002).

ssra

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by ssra » Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:29:55



  I'm glad someone brought that little scam to my attention a while
back.
 The fact is that the M/B and PS are essentially one unit (in that to
upgrade one you must do the other)
 While I would slightly hesitate to say go Dell to my mother (at least
till I can stop being her tech support) I would say not for anyone in
this group who *CAN* build their own
 Dell's way means that if you go their route a $100 MB will run you
$200 and is only available from them in their configuration (probably
the cheapest board Intel makes (if a P$)

Larr

OT:Are Dells upgradable?

by Larr » Sun, 22 Dec 2002 03:54:06

Dell has a tendancy to modify things to suit them.  From what I understand
(I haven't seen it yet) Dell doesn't use the standard ATX Power Connector
scheme.  They have modified motherboards and power supplies that only match
each other.

If you are truly interested in a lifetime of ripple-upgrades, then you
really need to build your own machine from the start.

-Larry



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