rec.autos.simulators

N3 Expansion pack

Lee Mil

N3 Expansion pack

by Lee Mil » Wed, 15 Dec 1999 04:00:00

You guys forget it's not Papyrus that decides to do this stuff...it
big daddy Sierra.  Sierra calls all the shots when it comes to stuff
like this...they just do what they are told.

Lee

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:16:47 -0500, Michael Basden


>Well folks,
>    I don't know if a similar thing has already been said but...I was
>just checking out the Papy website when lo-and-behold they are
>advertising "Screen shot for our upcoming Nascar Racing 3 Craftsman
>Trucks Expansion pack".  Now normally I don't *** about the software
>companies trying to make a buck off of us poor schmoes, but come on!
>Enough is enough!

>I think about the work dedicated sim guys have done for free in the past
>with N2 bodies and SCGT expansion packs etc,..and this Papy thing just
>pisses me off.  And now with the release of DTR, that you can pick up
>for a mere $20, I can't possibly swallow this tripe that Papy will try
>to pass off as an 'improvement' to N3.  <sarcasm on> I mean, surely this
>wasn't anything that they couldn't have put in N3 for the original
>release was it? <sarcasm off>  Yes, I think N3 was a great improvement
>over N2.  I'm not arguing about that, and I know some of you will try to
>defend it (like I have in the past) saying well, we will probably get
>more tracks too..etc..but frankly I'm sick of their 'cash-cow' scams! I
>only wish there was some way we could revolt against them without
>slitting our throats over N4.

>A very disappointed ex-Papy supporter,
>Mike Basden

>P.S. If someone knows of a good 3DO editor for N3 (and some background
>info on how to use it), I'd be open to trying my hand at creating a new
>body style.

Larr

N3 Expansion pack

by Larr » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I'd rather pay for a Viper Racing add-on pack, frankly.  I've bought SIX
Nascar Racing products from Papy over the last few years.  The fact that the
trucks were in NR1999, and pulled out of N3 as a money-making upgrade is,
frankly, really starting to wear on my nerves.

-Larry




> >advertising "Screen shot for our upcoming Nascar Racing 3 Craftsman
> >Trucks Expansion pack".  Now normally I don't *** about the software
> >companies trying to make a buck off of us poor schmoes, but come on!
> >Enough is enough!

>     IF it's treated as an EXPANSION pack and NOT a separate product and
> <ahem> PRICE IT ACCORDINGLY, then I'll probably buy it.  I love running
the
> trucks and I sure miss 'em right now.  If it's $20 or less, count me in: I
> actually LIKE the idea of add-on packs.  I'd also pay another $20 for
> another 10-15 tracks (real or fantasy).

> Gunner

Larr

N3 Expansion pack

by Larr » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00

It doesn't matter who it is.  We are the customers, and that is the one
constant.

For now...

These folks are doing their best to burn out my patience, and wallet.

-Larry


> You guys forget it's not Papyrus that decides to do this stuff...it
> big daddy Sierra.  Sierra calls all the shots when it comes to stuff
> like this...they just do what they are told.

> Lee

> On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:16:47 -0500, Michael Basden

> >Well folks,
> >    I don't know if a similar thing has already been said but...I was
> >just checking out the Papy website when lo-and-behold they are
> >advertising "Screen shot for our upcoming Nascar Racing 3 Craftsman
> >Trucks Expansion pack".  Now normally I don't *** about the software
> >companies trying to make a buck off of us poor schmoes, but come on!
> >Enough is enough!

> >I think about the work dedicated sim guys have done for free in the past
> >with N2 bodies and SCGT expansion packs etc,..and this Papy thing just
> >pisses me off.  And now with the release of DTR, that you can pick up
> >for a mere $20, I can't possibly swallow this tripe that Papy will try
> >to pass off as an 'improvement' to N3.  <sarcasm on> I mean, surely this
> >wasn't anything that they couldn't have put in N3 for the original
> >release was it? <sarcasm off>  Yes, I think N3 was a great improvement
> >over N2.  I'm not arguing about that, and I know some of you will try to
> >defend it (like I have in the past) saying well, we will probably get
> >more tracks too..etc..but frankly I'm sick of their 'cash-cow' scams! I
> >only wish there was some way we could revolt against them without
> >slitting our throats over N4.

> >A very disappointed ex-Papy supporter,
> >Mike Basden

> >P.S. If someone knows of a good 3DO editor for N3 (and some background
> >info on how to use it), I'd be open to trying my hand at creating a new
> >body style.

OpenG

N3 Expansion pack

by OpenG » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Hate to say this (and I sure as hell don't wanna start a fight) but this
is where obtaining an illegal copy would come in handy. Who wants to
shell out another $30-$40 for some car shape and a few extra tracks
ripped out of the N99 title?



> I'd rather pay for a Viper Racing add-on pack, frankly.  I've bought SIX
> Nascar Racing products from Papy over the last few years.  The fact that the
> trucks were in NR1999, and pulled out of N3 as a money-making upgrade is,
> frankly, really starting to wear on my nerves.

> -Larry




> > >advertising "Screen shot for our upcoming Nascar Racing 3 Craftsman
> > >Trucks Expansion pack".  Now normally I don't *** about the software
> > >companies trying to make a buck off of us poor schmoes, but come on!
> > >Enough is enough!

> >     IF it's treated as an EXPANSION pack and NOT a separate product and
> > <ahem> PRICE IT ACCORDINGLY, then I'll probably buy it.  I love running
> the
> > trucks and I sure miss 'em right now.  If it's $20 or less, count me in: I
> > actually LIKE the idea of add-on packs.  I'd also pay another $20 for
> > another 10-15 tracks (real or fantasy).

> > Gunner

ymenar

N3 Expansion pack

by ymenar » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00


> You didn't get my sarcasm, did you? I was dissing the guy for stressing
> the "French" part of who's trying to make the most cash...

You didn't get my sarcasm neither, did you? ;-)

I think I know my English enough to not need such tools.

Naw.. just wait and see their new title <puke>  ;)

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Larr

N3 Expansion pack

by Larr » Mon, 20 Dec 1999 04:00:00

What Papy/Sierra _should_ have done is said:

"Sorry, but we didn't have these done in time, and we wanted to get N3
shipped.  For our valued customers, here is the link to the free expansion
pack that adds the missing trucks and tracks to your Nascar Racing 3
program.  Thank you for choosing Papyrus, and for your continued support!"

It may have started out like this.  But, once the suits at Sierra around the
Mahogany Table got wind of it, they checked their wallets and saw they
didn't have enough in there for that new Lexus LS430 they had their eye on,
and shouted out "Expansion Pack!  $29.95!  Yeah, that's the ticket!"

Or, whatever :)

-Larry


> Hate to say this (and I sure as hell don't wanna start a fight) but this
> is where obtaining an illegal copy would come in handy. Who wants to
> shell out another $30-$40 for some car shape and a few extra tracks
> ripped out of the N99 title?



> > I'd rather pay for a Viper Racing add-on pack, frankly.  I've bought SIX
> > Nascar Racing products from Papy over the last few years.  The fact that
the
> > trucks were in NR1999, and pulled out of N3 as a money-making upgrade
is,
> > frankly, really starting to wear on my nerves.

> > -Larry




> > > >advertising "Screen shot for our upcoming Nascar Racing 3 Craftsman
> > > >Trucks Expansion pack".  Now normally I don't *** about the
software
> > > >companies trying to make a buck off of us poor schmoes, but come on!
> > > >Enough is enough!

> > >     IF it's treated as an EXPANSION pack and NOT a separate product
and
> > > <ahem> PRICE IT ACCORDINGLY, then I'll probably buy it.  I love
running
> > the
> > > trucks and I sure miss 'em right now.  If it's $20 or less, count me
in: I
> > > actually LIKE the idea of add-on packs.  I'd also pay another $20 for
> > > another 10-15 tracks (real or fantasy).

> > > Gunner


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