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Paulinh

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by Paulinh » Sat, 27 Dec 2003 20:55:38

I curently have a 1.4ghz amd, with 512mb, geforce 4 128mb.... and im finding
that its beging to chug with F1 games.... i`m using xp ( grrrhhh ).... i
think its time to build my new machine...

:-)

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McWho

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by McWho » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 01:49:30


> I curently have a 1.4ghz amd, with 512mb, geforce 4 128mb.... and im
> finding that its beging to chug with F1 games.... i`m using xp (
> grrrhhh ).... i think its time to build my new machine...

> :-)

LOL, poor guy.......I am still chugging along with my AMD 750 Duron
processor,256mb and Gforce 2 64mb

Not much eye candy when I am racing....... :-)

If you are feeling generous I would be happy to pay shipping to my house
after you build your new one.

Sean

Eldre

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by Eldre » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 02:50:03



>I curently have a 1.4ghz amd, with 512mb, geforce 4 128mb.... and im finding
>that its beging to chug with F1 games.... i`m using xp ( grrrhhh ).... i
>think its time to build my new machine...

Well, your system is still faster than MINE(1.2), and I only have 384mb RAM.
I'll trade ya.<g>

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Mitch_

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by Mitch_ » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 03:07:45

I just picked up a few Duron 1.6's for $28 each.  Thats lilely cheaper
than shipping that mobo/cpu ;)

Depending upon your current mobo (bios upg) you may be able to just drop
in one of these faster durons.

Honestly I don't know how you can play ANY game reasonably well with
that rig.

Mitch

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> LOL, poor guy.......I am still chugging along with my AMD 750 Duron
> processor,256mb and Gforce 2 64mb

> Not much eye candy when I am racing....... :-)

> If you are feeling generous I would be happy to pay shipping to my
> house
> after you build your new one.

> Sean

David Butter

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by David Butter » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 07:13:37


<snip>

GPL works perfectly well on a P3-533 with a GeForce 2. Less elitism, if
you please, sir! :-P

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Top-poste

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by Top-poste » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 07:14:07

Yeah, just ship your old pile-o-junk to me - I'll front the shipping.


> I curently have a 1.4ghz amd, with 512mb, geforce 4 128mb.... and im
finding
> that its beging to chug with F1 games.... i`m using xp ( grrrhhh ).... i
> think its time to build my new machine...

> :-)

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by Top-poste » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 07:18:18



> > I curently have a 1.4ghz amd, with 512mb, geforce 4 128mb.... and im
> > finding that its beging to chug with F1 games.... i`m using xp (
> > grrrhhh ).... i think its time to build my new machine...

> > :-)

> LOL, poor guy.......I am still chugging along with my AMD 750 Duron
> processor,256mb and Gforce 2 64mb

Actually, I'm still chugging along with my : -
Abit NF7-S 2.0

512 OCZ PC3700 - 11 3 2 2 Sync Dual
Radeon 9800 Pro 434 -760
3DMk03 of 6.4K , 3DMk01 of 18.2K
Mitch_

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by Mitch_ » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:39:36



> <snip>
>> Honestly I don't know how you can play ANY game reasonably well
>> with that rig.

> GPL works perfectly well on a P3-533 with a GeForce 2. Less elitism,
> if
> you please, sir! :-P

I bow my head in shame ;)  I'd forgotten about GPL.  1998 was a
seriously good year for the PC gamer.  GPL, F4, Half-Life.  All three
and mods still are still being run by many gamers daily.

Mitch

McWho

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by McWho » Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:11:57


> I just picked up a few Duron 1.6's for $28 each.  Thats lilely cheaper
> than shipping that mobo/cpu ;)

> Depending upon your current mobo (bios upg) you may be able to just
> drop in one of these faster durons.

> Honestly I don't know how you can play ANY game reasonably well with
> that rig.

> Mitch

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My board would take up to a 1.2 I believe.  The reason the unit as a whole
is getting *old* (damn technology) is because I decided against upgrading
anything after adding the last bit of RAM.
One day soon I will hit a local show and pick up the various pieces or find
a guy with a good base setup put together reasonbly and get back in the
present  :-)  In PA. , They decided to promote computer sales by having a
tax free month a few years ago.  It has now become tradition it seems and I
plan to be buying this February.  I like to buy case/power/mobo/processor as
a piece and go from there.

As for game play, that is what usually drives me to the store.  When the
games minimums start matching or beating my system it's time.
Most games I like, flying, racing, first person have required me to lower
video settings for about a year now.   They still run ok but some of you
will remember the troubles I would have in rascar if the connection was
slow, I also think the number of 56k connections causes my system to get
real jumpy trying to draw the cars in NR2k3.  Still not real sure what that
was all about cause I can race papy ok.
Sean

Eldre

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by Eldre » Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:22:05



>GPL works perfectly well on a P3-533 with a GeForce 2. Less elitism, if
>you please, sir! :-P

I guess something must be wrong with my system.  I have an Athlon 1.2 with a GF
4, and I still can't run full detail.  And, I don't have any enhanced track/car
graphics, either.

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Malc

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by Malc » Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:58:05



Buttery

> >GPL works perfectly well on a P3-533 with a GeForce 2. Less elitism, if
> >you please, sir! :-P

> I guess something must be wrong with my system.  I have an Athlon 1.2
with a GF
> 4, and I still can't run full detail.  And, I don't have any enhanced
track/car
> graphics, either.

I'd say so yes. I have a K6-2 400 with 256Mb & A V3 2000 that runs a
standard install just fine with 5 or so cars in view (typical online
race).

There's not much you can do to a PC to slow it down that much, but I guess
not having an IRQ assigned to your Gf4 might do it, or possibly an
overzealous anti-virus program.

The Gf4200 (128Mb) in my XP2000 PC seems to be perfectly capable of
running full graphics on cars, including the hi-res textures recently
released with GPLEA cars, although it still struggles with some of the
more graphics heavy track updates.
Until recently I ran 1152x864 and it hit 36fps everywhere, but now I use
1360x1020 and find that with everything on max, 4x AA & 8x Aniso it
occasionally drops to 30 or so fps. Lose the AA & it's fine again.

Your PC /should/ have no trouble Eldred.

Malc.

Malc.

David Butter

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by David Butter » Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:59:07




>>GPL works perfectly well on a P3-533 with a GeForce 2. Less
>>elitism, if you please, sir! :-P

> I guess something must be wrong with my system.  I have an Athlon
> 1.2 with a GF 4, and I still can't run full detail.  And, I don't
> have any enhanced track/car graphics, either.

> Eldred

Well, the exact system in question (from memory; it's not the one I'm
using now) is:

IBM Personal Computer 300PL
Intel P3-533 CPU
64MB PC100 SDRAM
Windows 98SE
64MB GeForce 2 MX400
MSFF wheel (USB)
Fujitsu ErgoPro x174 17" CRT monitor

None of that is exactly new, but it's all tried and tested, and gets
the job done. I don't run with the detail slider at 100%, though; more
like 70%.

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Eldre

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by Eldre » Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:17:33



>I'd say so yes. I have a K6-2 400 with 256Mb & A V3 2000 that runs a
>standard install just fine with 5 or so cars in view (typical online
>race).

At what resolution and detail level?

Anti-virus is off when racing, and the GF4 *does* have an IRQ.  I've never
known a graphics card NOT to have an IRQ.  It's sharing it with a SCSI card,
though.  But, the SCSI isn't being used, so I can't see that being much of a
problem.  I'll probably pull that card just to save space, energy, etc.

Yeah, but your current system is much faster than mine.  I'm only running at
1024x768, and I've had AA off for a while.  I only had the detail at about 30%
for a long time.  I cranked it up for a recent league Ring race - I thought
maybe I was missing some brake markers.  It didn't help, and I just thought of
something.  That *may* have been why the car felt so foreign during the race as
opposed to practice laps.  Maybe the higher detail slowed the system down
enough that I was always 'behind' the car...

Eldred

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Eldre

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by Eldre » Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:17:33



>IBM Personal Computer 300PL
>Intel P3-533 CPU
>64MB PC100 SDRAM
>Windows 98SE
>64MB GeForce 2 MX400
>MSFF wheel (USB)
>Fujitsu ErgoPro x174 17" CRT monitor

>None of that is exactly new, but it's all tried and tested, and gets
>the job done. I don't run with the detail slider at 100%, though; more
>like 70%.

Amazing - I'm getting less performance on a system that should run circles
around yours... :-(

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Malc

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by Malc » Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:16:00




> >I'd say so yes. I have a K6-2 400 with 256Mb & A V3 2000 that runs a
> >standard install just fine with 5 or so cars in view (typical online
> >race).

> At what resolution and detail level?

960x720 usually, although it'll run 1024x768 okay if I tweak the graphics
a bit (remove wall textures etc). When gpl originally cam out this would
have been a decent spec PC, although the CPU is a bit of a weak spot.

I used to run this PC with a 1.2 Athlon until a year or so ago. It
wouldn't do the 4xAA but everything else was fine.

If it helps, I use OpenGL (force 16 bit textures), and my core.ini
settings are:

[ OpenGL ]
TossHighestMip = 0
MipFiltering = 4
MirrorsEvery = 1

If I run gpl in a window & watch the task manager (I use Win2k btw) gpl
rarely uses more than 60% cpu or thereabouts. I can happily hotlap with
Outlook Express, Excel & IE6 open in the background, so even a background
process running on your PC would have to be a pretty CPU/memory intensive
one to slow your PC down so much.

As I suggested before, I would guess that there is something fundamental
to your setup that is causing the slow-down. If it's not the IRQ
assignment it could possibly be that you haven't installed the VIA 4-in-1
drivers, or whatever alternative your motherboard needs. Maybe DMA isn't
enabled or something.

hth, Malc.


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