rec.autos.simulators

Now, I'm not a die-hard racer, so I'm not interested in one with FF. I
just play NFS:PU, DTR, etc  (i.e. no GPL or NASCAR4 for me). So that
leaves me with three options:

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Digital 2
Microsoft SideWinder Precision Racing Wheel
WingMan Formula GP

Now after messing wround with a display of the Wingman, and feeling
how loose it is, I've put that as my third choice.

I originally was leaning toward the Nascar Pro after reading a few
good reviews, but I just read some less than spectacular reviews for
it.

So does anybody have a recommendation?  Better yet, has anybody used
both of these and can give a few opinions?

I went out and got the Microsoft FF because I had never owned one, however
had a friend that let me try his. I really like it and if this one happens
to burn up or ***out on me, I will buy another. It was easy to install and
an alot of fun to use. The only draw back is having to go into ***
options to switch wheel profiles. I wish it had a program you could put on
the Desktop and do a quick switch like the Microsoft Joysticks.

Anyway, if you have the time and patience then the TM is a good wheel.
However for ease of use and getting running quick, I would definitely buy
the Microsoft FF. Plus you can get one for right around $100 USD and that's
not bad for Force Feedback in my opinion.

Peter Walker
Bagus51

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Dwayne
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"I told him he was number 1"
 (Dale Earnhardt)
 I will miss you Dale

The FF in the act labs is splendid
The Shifter only works on the FF wheel
The patch for NFS:PU to us the shifter makes this a completely new game
Try RC2K with the shifter...
Best wheel around, best support BY FAR....

I went with the MS PRW.  Here's why.  It was about $69CAN (after
$30rebate, finally got the check, thanks MS).  It took up less desk
space, way better clamping system.  You could take this thing of in
literally 2 seconds. It felt better than the TNPR2.  

However if I wanted FF, my next purchase will probably be an Act Labs
Force RS with shifter.  

Could we wrong though.

You are SOOOO right about the pedals, I wish the new set will be out soon.

I love my Thrustmaster FFB Racing Wheel Ferrari... USB, FFB, hi precision
and control, Hat swirch 8 D-pad, 2 buttons + 4 quick-buttons, side Gear
stick, 2 wheel gear levers, 2 wheel throtle/braking levers, nice pedals,
solid and robust construction...

I've tested it against a MS FFB USB before buying it and I liked it
better...

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Sam's Club is selling MS Presicion Pro for $19.00 and
MS FF Wheel for $51.91.

I couldn't find a Sam's store that had one in stock so I called around
and Staples price matched Sam's!!

Whhhooheee!!!!
My receipt say $140.89  -88.98 for a total of $51.91.

Got it yesterday (3 days after buying it), delivered to my door step.

I now love Staples!!

Good luck.

That's a little more than I was planning to spend... in fact it's
nearly TWICE at much. :)  I've definitely heard great things about the
Force RS, but I don't play racing games enough to make it worth the
money.

Considering that I will use it for about 1-2 hours a week if I'm
lucky, I'd say that would last 2 or three forevers.  

| Definitly go for the FFB versions... you'll be glad for that.
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| I love my Thrustmaster FFB Racing Wheel Ferrari... USB, FFB, hi precision
| and control, Hat swirch 8 D-pad, 2 buttons + 4 quick-buttons, side Gear
| stick, 2 wheel gear levers, 2 wheel throtle/braking levers, nice pedals,
| solid and robust construction...
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| I've tested it against a MS FFB USB before buying it and I liked it
| better...
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