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Racing Legends update

gddd

Racing Legends update

by gddd » Fri, 16 May 2003 07:22:20

You're just NOW losing faith?  LMAO  Anyone who still believes in RL must be
gullible enough to consider buying beachfront property in IDAHO!!!!
pffffffft

(Not a knock on you necessarily Nick, just in general towards people who
fathom this becoming a reality.     Vaporware at its finest!)


Nic

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by Nic » Fri, 16 May 2003 07:29:56


> >  Go do something constructive with your life instead of waiting for RL - and
> >  when it's done, it's done.

> The point is not to complain that a sim that I am waiting for isnt ready.
> The point is to comment that it is odd that west feel that a website
> publicising their forthcoming product with news on progress is worthwhile,
> but not worthwhile enough to update for more than three months.

That was my point too. If your website is your main means of selling
your product, and you also set it up throughout development to keep
your fans in the loop, then surely not updating it for three months is
a contradiction of thought?

I'm not*** on RL, I check the website every once in a while to
see if there has been an update (every few weeks or so, which is what
I would class as a good period between news updates).

Also, there seem to be a disproportionate number of fanboys who won't
accept anything bad written or said about RL. They are the ultimate
*** fans of something they have never played or even seen, of a
developer who has never published a title. These people deter me from
the forums, for example, a quick look through today sees articles
about the 3 month lack of news signalling that it's done, being tested
and will be with us in days!

(In fact, my search of the west-racing.com forums leads me to believe
that Doug is one of these fanboys, although I can't back that up
because I was only there for a few minutes. Sorry Doug if that's wrong
or it's a different Doug ;-).

The company that always pops into my head is id software. There are
always things they can do to their engines to make them better before
they ship, John Carmack is always a generation ahead of the
technology, but they ship on time, rake in loads of cash with which to
spend developing 'what that game should have been'. The problem with
developing until you have the best product is simply the fact that the
goalposts move faster than you can, so you will *always* have
something else to do before it ships. Outcome? It doesn't ship, ever.
It happens a lot in software engineering.

The Wests need to say 'whatever we have at mm/dd/yy, we ship, then we
develop version 2'. Until they do that, I fear that RL will disappear
up its own exhaust pipe.

Doug Elliso

Racing Legends update

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 16 May 2003 07:35:22

Yup - same one.

You either believe them - or you dont.

I've met them, know how much they're ploughing into this, and happen to
trust them

Other people dont.

Eitherway - waiting doesnt hurt anyone

Doug

Mike Beaucham

Racing Legends update

by Mike Beaucham » Fri, 16 May 2003 07:39:38

I remember reading a post on their message board about how that website was
never really meant for us to go to for updates, it was there to show people
like investors, sponsors and car companies the concept.

It was also mentioned that they aren't being public with a lot of things, so
they don't repeat the disappointment with the hyped whatever that other game
was called :)

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com


Ed Solhei

Racing Legends update

by Ed Solhei » Fri, 16 May 2003 08:16:17


> I've met them, know how much they're ploughing into this, and happen to
> trust them

> Other people dont.

I don't think that it's nessecarily (sp?) a question of trusting them or not
Doug...
It might just be a question of being realistic or not.

--
ed_

Doug Elliso

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by Doug Elliso » Fri, 16 May 2003 08:18:02



> > I've met them, know how much they're ploughing into this, and happen to
> > trust them

> > Other people dont.

> I don't think that it's nessecarily (sp?) a question of trusting them or
not
> Doug...
> It might just be a question of being realistic or not.

If you believe them, then you assume they're being realistic.

If you dont - you assume they're not.

It's all the same thing really

Doug

Izzy Forea

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by Izzy Forea » Fri, 16 May 2003 15:25:24


Wow, what incredibly deep thinking that is. And I always thought sim racers
were such shallow types.

Master Doug, what other teachings have you got to help me get through the
rigours of day to day life.;-)

Ashley McConnel

Racing Legends update

by Ashley McConnel » Fri, 16 May 2003 17:47:04


*Yawn*

Thanks for your contribution to the sim-racing community

Ed Solhei

Racing Legends update

by Ed Solhei » Fri, 16 May 2003 19:03:46

"Doug Ellison" said:

Is it?

One might believe their intentions are honest and that they "talk" is
real...  but does that mean that one must believe that their
"dreams"/visions/etc. are realistic??

There's a difference between believing someone  or - believing
*in*someone....

Just my ? 0.02

--
ed_

Doug Elliso

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by Doug Elliso » Fri, 16 May 2003 19:20:05


To believe they're being honest - one must assume it is realistic.

If it is not - then they are not being honest

This is a very very silly argument - thats for sure

Doug


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