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F1GP in the wet

David Zuide

F1GP in the wet

by David Zuide » Wed, 01 Feb 1995 06:18:17

Having qualified in pole position for Monaco I was then informed that it was
going to be wet for the race and would I like to change my car setup. I stayed
with my current setup and paid the price sliding all over the place and not
accelerating very well. I then tried again, qualified on pole and had another
wet race, this time I changed my setup to about 45f/50r or something similar
and made very little difference. Anyone have any good setups for the wet?

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Tero Paanan

F1GP in the wet

by Tero Paanan » Sun, 05 Feb 1995 00:14:39


Wet tires. Your normal setup had slicks and thus you were sliding all
over the place.

                        -TPP

Benedict Ritchie (

F1GP in the wet

by Benedict Ritchie ( » Sun, 05 Feb 1995 02:27:42

: Having qualified in pole position for Monaco I was then informed that it was
: going to be wet for the race and would I like to change my car setup. I stayed
: with my current setup and paid the price sliding all over the place and not
: accelerating very well. I then tried again, qualified on pole and had another
: wet race, this time I changed my setup to about 45f/50r or something similar
: and made very little difference. Anyone have any good setups for the wet?

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The only time I have ever won a wet race (on Pro level) was at monaco, but
I only managed to do this by going slow through the corners and blocking
all overtaking attempts. Other cars were, at times, lapping up to five
seconds faster than me (crashed, then clear track probably) but no one
could overtake - first place. Bit like Senna/Mansell in 1992 really.
Fairly obviously this will not work anywhere else, apart from Pheonix maybe.

Apart from Monoco, I am hopeless in the wet, ie 20th at Hungaroring. As far
as I can tell, the computer cars cheat, and are just 'slowed down' a bit,
and dont have any of the traction problems the player gets. Any ideas, I
wouldn't mind hearing them too....
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UBen

F1GP in the wet

by UBen » Tue, 07 Feb 1995 09:20:24

I agree, racing in the wet seems nearly impossible.  I've tried changing
everything from tires to gear ratios with little success.  During one
race, after spinning off for the 400th time I spent some time in the
***pit of the race leaders and found that they seem to do a lot of short
shifting.  However, when I tried it everyone blew by me.  It seems the
only way to win is "block and punt", but that's not too sporting.

craig  

Doug Reichl

F1GP in the wet

by Doug Reichl » Tue, 07 Feb 1995 17:32:09

: Wet tires. Your normal setup had slicks and thus you were sliding all
: over the place.

It is impossible to START a wet race in WC/F1GP on anything other than
wet tires.  It does not matter what you have selected in the garage, the
wet races will always start on wet tires.

You can, however, pit in the wet race and put on slicks.  If you are in
doubt that you started on wet tires, just pit and put on slick tires.  If
you thought you didn't have traction with the wets... good luck on
slicks.

Mr J.W. McIlr

F1GP in the wet

by Mr J.W. McIlr » Wed, 08 Feb 1995 01:50:46



: : Having qualified in pole position for Monaco I was then informed that it was
: : going to be wet for the race and would I like to change my car setup. I stayed
: : with my current setup and paid the price sliding all over the place and not
: : accelerating very well. I then tried again, qualified on pole and had another
: : wet race, this time I changed my setup to about 45f/50r or something similar
: : and made very little difference. Anyone have any good setups for the wet?

I posted a few months ago about this. Is there not a hex edit for F1GP
to permit you to practice for long periods of time in the wet? I'm
sure we'd all be a lot better if we had unlimited time to learn
technique in such conditions!

John

DR

F1GP in the wet

by DR » Thu, 09 Feb 1995 03:01:04

: I agree, racing in the wet seems nearly impossible.  I've tried changing
: everything from tires to gear ratios with little success.  During one
: race, after spinning off for the 400th time I spent some time in the
:***pit of the race leaders and found that they seem to do a lot of short
: shifting.  However, when I tried it everyone blew by me.  It seems the
: only way to win is "block and punt", but that's not too sporting.

Practice practice practice! It can be done, you just need to adjust
your driving style.

Start off with really big wings and get used to the way the car keeps
wanting to break away under acceleration. Try not to accelerate or brake
while turning to start with. You were right about the short-shifting,
particularly important in the first three gears.

As you get the hang of the car, start to reduce the amount of wing.

The best way to get practice is to go into the 'quick race' menu and
select a track like Hockenheim or Monza, set the laps to the maximum
and weather to wet. You can go into a championship race to change the
setup of your car and then keep going back to the quick races for
practice.

If you get really good, you should be able to win the German Grand Prix
in the wet with your DRY setup, just using the wet tyres. The little
speed you lose in the corners is easily made up on the straights!

                                                   DR J

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David Kadlca

F1GP in the wet

by David Kadlca » Thu, 09 Feb 1995 06:56:02


  I have had no problems in wet races what's so ever. I did 100% in
Hungary in rain. Lap-ed the second guy three times! Opponents cannot drive
in rain. I don't know why you guys have problems.

 Dave.

Stefan Antersberg

F1GP in the wet

by Stefan Antersberg » Thu, 09 Feb 1995 21:51:57

Hi everyone!

The last time I drove a wet race was at Monaco.
I qualified pole in the dry.
Then I get a bad start with spinning wheels and therefore
I was on forth position after the first corner.
But then I crashed at Loews and lost my frontwing.
To keep my forth place I decided not to go on pits.
In the second round with that demolished frontwing I could
overtake two cars and drove fastest lap time.
So, if you have problems in the wet just destroy your
frontwing and noone could stop you.

For explanation:
I ran at ace level with standard setup and 716 HP.
All other driver had been edited with F1GP-Ed to over 900 HP.

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@cs.cuhk.h

F1GP in the wet

by @cs.cuhk.h » Sun, 12 Feb 1995 00:23:36


I've race in wet condition for once. It was France. After qualifying, the program
told me that the race will be in wet condition. I then practice with more wings
added to both front and rear. The braking poing and cornering speed may be
different, but more wings helps a little. I was able to win the race by about
several seconds margin :) I did it in a championship which is still going.

I still don't know how to setup in wet. But one thing for sure: practice for
the wet. The cornering speed is different! If you came in like in dry, I'm
sure you'll spin tens or even hundreds of times! (In France, after the start-
finish point, there is several 5 to 6 gear turn. In the wet condition, the last
fast turn (a 5 gear) cannot go through without sliding out to the grass with
gear higher than 3).

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Aylwin Yu

- I've lapped 24 cars, and the second position in sight!


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