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by **jason moye** » Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:01:32

> It's all about the cars for me. Life is short.....no point in driving *any*
> sim with boring cars just because they were paid to give their permission.
> And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.

I can't really agree with you (lots of things I'd rather drive than a
modern F1 car, then again I'd rather fly my F-86 in a sim over an F-15)
but...I'd be highly surprised if iRacing doesn't feature a modern-spec
F1 car of some sort, if not in the initial release. If the sim
features ladder systems for karts, open wheelers, stock cars, and
sports cars, I'd think eventually you'll be given the option to
graduate to the big boys.

Also, I dunno if anyone else noticed, but the animation on the main
page has a rendered Star Mazda which isn't mentioned anywhere else on
the site.

by **Byron Forbe** » Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:09:39

>>>> com.au...
>>>> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>>>> > Getting closer.

>>>> YAWN

>>> LOL

>> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very ***y tiny tolerances
>> doesn't get yer *** up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
>> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
>> will be Vunderbra!!!

>> dave henrie

>> (of course I may be replying to a yawn cuz it doesn't have one of
>> Bernie's
>> all conquering Eff One cars like that super fast Minardi or the really
>> cooking Toro Roso or....even better that Orang...uhmm I mean the SUPER
>> DUPER Aguri. Yessir....Effen one is THE place for cutting edge.
>> Or maybe you are one the NExtel only crowd. Certainly a little ol Late
>> Model stock car will never thrill like all those big ol Nextel cars
>> gliding
>> around Daytona for lap after lap after lap. Yer right..if it ain't Cup
>> racin' it aint.)

>> dh

> It's all about the cars for me. Life is short.....no point in driving
> *any* sim with boring cars just because they were paid to give their
> permission. And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.

Some interesting comments.

I think Kaemmer shows that he knows the way forward though ie everything
in 1 place. All mods, tracks leagues in 1 place - that is going to be
EXTREMELY attractive to many - rFactor being a perfect example.

Besides, in time (hmmm, I seem to have been saying this for about a
decate - LOL) I'm betting there won't be many types of cars unavailable over
there and an ever growing list of tracks. I wonder how much time?

by **Ronald Stoeh** » Sat, 22 Jul 2006 21:51:42

> I'd venture to bet that most would find driving an F1 car or a Prototype
> far easier than an sprint car or a stockcar. With so much of those cars
> dependent upon electronics (TC, ABS, LC), the driver isn't in need of
> much throttle control - just steer the dogone thing!

Yepp, that's why they are thinking about replacing those moody, sensitive
human drivers earning millions with... monkeys! A couple bananas... done!

l8er
ronny

> Kinda what makes the GTP mod so fun. The driver has to tame the beast;
> not the other way around!

> --

> Wag

> > And yes, I want the best of the best, so that's F1.

> But if the sim is uber-realistic as people claim to want there's no way
> on earth that an amateur on the wrong side of 40 can drive a modern
> billion $ F1 car using a 19" monitor and controls that retail for $100
> (or even $1000 or $10,000), it would be like practicing for a heart
> transplant with milton bradley's Operation game. Heck, even Michael
> Schumacher has problems making them stop and turn to enter the Monaco
> pits...; )

> So either you want realism or your want F1, but you can't have both....

by **Elrik** » Sun, 23 Jul 2006 03:55:56

>> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very ***y tiny tolerances
>> doesn't get yer *** up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
>> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
>> will be Vunderbra!!!

> Who cares? Where's the transporter?

> Don McCorkle

. . . and the bears !

. . . Gots ta hav me teddy.

Elrikk
.

by **jason moye** » Sun, 23 Jul 2006 06:04:11

> Maybe, but a simple press release doesn't...

> Wake me when there's product.

I agree to an extent, but we're also looking at a company consisting of
people with a tangible track record (regardless of how you feel about
Kaemmer's previous work). A real developer with real financial backing
= an eventual product. I'm not advising to buy into the hype
necessarily, but certainly if you enjoyed GPL and N2003 it's worth
getting a tiny bit e***d.

by **David G Fishe** » Sun, 23 Jul 2006 06:20:33

>> laser scanned tracks that are accurate to very ***y tiny tolerances
>> doesn't get yer *** up? I think just having VIR is enough to justify
>> that sim. Getting through the esses and knowing this is dead on accurate
>> will be Vunderbra!!!

> The track list is ***ic. I think Road Atlanta might be the only
> essential American natural terrain road course not on there.

Really? I thought the track list was kind of poor. Very few would I get
e***d about racing.

--
David G Fisher

by **jason moye** » Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:06:01

> Really? I thought the track list was kind of poor. Very few would I get
> e***d about racing.

I think the track list is kinda short, and there are several non-US
tracks I'd like to drive (Mosport, Mont Tremblant, Nurby, Spa, Suzuka,
etc), but as far as American stuff goes they have most of the essential
road courses for me:

Daytona
Lime Rock
Mid-Ohio
Road America
VIR
Watkins Glen
Willow Springs

Only ones I'd really like US-wise and don't see there are Laguna Seca,
Sears Pt, Road Atlanta, and Sebring. Maybe the various Pocono infield
tracks. Would be nice to have Riverside or historical versions of the
tracks they have the rights to as well.

by **flightlessvac..** » Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:20:47

> The track list is ***ic.

Put it back in your pants.

by **epick..** » Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:53:43

Nah - ME-109 or FW190...<g>

Eldred
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by **Greg Campbel** » Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:00:34

>>I can't really agree with you (lots of things I'd rather drive than a
>>modern F1 car, then again I'd rather fly my F-86 in a sim over an F-15)
> Nah - ME-109 or FW190...<g>

> Eldred

You've discovered the IL-2 universe, Eldred?
As Monty Burns would say, "EXCELENT!!"

:)

by **epick..** » Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:19:17

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:00:34 -0700, Greg Campbell

>>>I can't really agree with you (lots of things I'd rather drive than a
>>>modern F1 car, then again I'd rather fly my F-86 in a sim over an F-15)

>> Nah - ME-109 or FW190...<g>

>> Eldred

>You've discovered the IL-2 universe, Eldred?
>As Monty Burns would say, "EXCELENT!!"

>:)

No - that was from an older game. But it was so long ago I'm not sure
what game it WAS. Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, I think. I may
have IL2 packed in a box somewhere, but I don't think I've loaded it
yet.<g>

Eldred
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by **mcewen** » Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:58:36

The same could be said about the Deloren sports car ;)

by **Greg Campbel** » Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:43:40

> No - that was from an older game. But it was so long ago I'm not sure
> what game it WAS. Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, I think. I may
> have IL2 packed in a box somewhere, but I don't think I've loaded it
> yet.<g>

> Eldred

If you still have fond memories of SWL, you really should fire up IL2!
It's VERY fun.

-Greg

by **Ped Xin** » Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:01:55

Eldred! Long time no see. You still owe me a race, man. :-) What sims
are you driving these days?

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Ped Xing

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