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UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

pdot..

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by pdot.. » Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:52:03

Check out the UltraForce Simulators web site for some updates:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Pat Dotson
UltraForce Simulators
Kokomo, Indiana
765-480-8907

Lancelo

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by Lancelo » Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:14:35

Seems quite costly.


pdot..

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by pdot.. » Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:14:59

Indy 500 Winner Buddy Lazier and former IRL regular Davey Hamilton (who
will be returning to competition this year) had a chance to drive with
the GS-1 G-Seat.  The event happened at Sinden Racing HQ on Gasoline
Alley in Indianapolis.  Lazier and Hamilton piloted the rFactor X-Car
mod around the virtual Indianapolis Motor Speeday while the GS-1
provided "seat of the pants" feedback.

Both drivers were impressed with the GS-1 G-Seat.  Lazier, after almost
an hour in the simulator, commented that the feedback from the seat is
very realistic.  Hamilton said that the Ultraforce GS-1 combined with
rFactor and a triple-monitor display delivered the best racing
simulator experience he had ever had.

Check out the UltraForce web site for more detail and pictures:

http://www.ultraforcesim.com

Pat Dotson


> Check out the UltraForce Simulators web site for some updates:

> http://www.ultraforcesim.com

> Pat Dotson
> UltraForce Simulators
> Kokomo, Indiana
> 765-480-8907

Tony Rickar

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:47:39


> Check out the UltraForce Simulators web site for some updates:

> http://www.ultraforcesim.com

The seat looks at its best in action, Pat.

The image http://www.ultraforcesim.com/new_files/image004.jpg looks
somewhat utilitarian. I guess the key is once at in the seat in a
reasonable racing position all you see is the screen and feel the motion.

The images with Buddy and Davey look pretty cool. A major coup getting
those drivers on board!

Cheers
Tony

Tony Rickar

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:49:37


> Seems quite costly.

Niche product, niche pricing. Simple economics.
Rod

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by Rod » Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:44:22


Nice, looks like a great setup. When I win the lottery I'll place
an order. ;)

Cheers,
Rod.

pdot..

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by pdot.. » Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:40:17


> Seems quite costly.

It's not cheap, but try pricing a Virtual GT or a Virtual Racer X.  :)

The $3,600 price will include a racing***pit that the GS-1 seat will
be mounted in.  The Ultraforce simulator will be a bargain considering
the driving experience it provides.

Pat Dotson
UltraForce Simulators
Kokomo, Indiana
765-480-8907

Larry

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by Larry » Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:45:50



>> Seems quite costly.

> It's not cheap, but try pricing a Virtual GT or a Virtual Racer X.  :)

> The $3,600 price will include a racing***pit that the GS-1 seat will
> be mounted in.  The Ultraforce simulator will be a bargain considering
> the driving experience it provides.

> Pat Dotson
> UltraForce Simulators
> Kokomo, Indiana
> 765-480-8907

Doesn't it do the same thing as this?  http://www.racesimcentral.net/
jwilson5

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by jwilson5 » Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:20:30




>>> Seems quite costly.

>> It's not cheap, but try pricing a Virtual GT or a Virtual Racer X.  :)

>> The $3,600 price will include a racing***pit that the GS-1 seat will
>> be mounted in.  The Ultraforce simulator will be a bargain considering
>> the driving experience it provides.

>> Pat Dotson
>> UltraForce Simulators
>> Kokomo, Indiana
>> 765-480-8907

> Doesn't it do the same thing as this?  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Good find,and less than 1/10 the cost of the lawn chair deal!
Albert Ros

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by Albert Ros » Mon, 15 Jan 2007 01:39:15





>>>> Seems quite costly.

>>> It's not cheap, but try pricing a Virtual GT or a Virtual Racer X.  :)

>>> The $3,600 price will include a racing***pit that the GS-1 seat will
>>> be mounted in.  The Ultraforce simulator will be a bargain considering
>>> the driving experience it provides.

>>> Pat Dotson
>>> UltraForce Simulators
>>> Kokomo, Indiana
>>> 765-480-8907

>> Doesn't it do the same thing as this?  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> Good find,and less than 1/10 the cost of the lawn chair deal!

The iVibe is superb! I couldn't believe how much more fun rFactor was
with this thing. I wouldn't be without one now.
pdot..

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by pdot.. » Mon, 15 Jan 2007 03:25:41


> Doesn't it do the same thing as this?  http://www.ivibe.com/default.htm

No!  Not at all.  The GS-1 G-seat is completely different!  There is no
comparison.

I have an ivibe TFS2 system.  It's a very neat piece of hardware.  For
$275 it can't be beat.  I'd suggest it to anyone because it does
increase the immersion level.

But...

It's not in the same category as the GS-1.  The seat pads on the GS-1
don't just vibrate, They don't "vibrate" at all really.  They literally
move in response to the calculated lateral, longitudinal, and vertical
accelerations in a simulation.

The GS-1 works off the same basic principle as a motion platform in
terms of subjecting the driver's body to real force, and gives a
comparable experience to a motion platform.  But, where the motion
platform relies on the force of gravity to create the "seat of the
pants" feel for the driver, the GS-1 creates those sensations directly
by moving the pads in the proper direction.  So you really feel your
body weight transfer in a corner.  You feel the sensation that your
body gets lighter in the seat as you go over the crest of a hill.  You
feel the force in your back when you step on the throttle.

Some big names in Sim-Racing have already tried this seat, and are
extremely impressed!  More news on that to come.  In addition to that,
two professional Indycar drivers, including an Indy 500 Winner, have
been impressed with the realism of the experience.

You might have to try it yourself to become a believer, but I gaurantee
that once you try it you will believe!  :)

Pat Dotson
UltraForce Simulators
Kokomo, Indiana
765-480-8907

jwilson5

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by jwilson5 » Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:23:40



>> Doesn't it do the same thing as this?  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> No!  Not at all.  The GS-1 G-seat is completely different!  There is no
> comparison.

> I have an ivibe TFS2 system.  It's a very neat piece of hardware.  For
> $275 it can't be beat.  I'd suggest it to anyone because it does
> increase the immersion level.

> But...

> It's not in the same category as the GS-1.  The seat pads on the GS-1
> don't just vibrate, They don't "vibrate" at all really.  They literally
> move in response to the calculated lateral, longitudinal, and vertical
> accelerations in a simulation.

> The GS-1 works off the same basic principle as a motion platform in
> terms of subjecting the driver's body to real force, and gives a
> comparable experience to a motion platform.  But, where the motion
> platform relies on the force of gravity to create the "seat of the
> pants" feel for the driver, the GS-1 creates those sensations directly
> by moving the pads in the proper direction.  So you really feel your
> body weight transfer in a corner.  You feel the sensation that your
> body gets lighter in the seat as you go over the crest of a hill.  You
> feel the force in your back when you step on the throttle.

> Some big names in Sim-Racing have already tried this seat, and are
> extremely impressed!  More news on that to come.  In addition to that,
> two professional Indycar drivers, including an Indy 500 Winner, have
> been impressed with the realism of the experience.

> You might have to try it yourself to become a believer, but I gaurantee
> that once you try it you will believe!  :)

> Pat Dotson
> UltraForce Simulators
> Kokomo, Indiana
> 765-480-8907

You know it may be all it's cracked up to be.However,at $3600 you are
not going to sell to the average or even *** simmer.Now if your
market is "real" drivers to help with practice sessions etc.,then you
might sell a few.But as I'm sure you have noticed,at that price in this
forum all you get to do is defend your product.
Larry

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by Larry » Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:18:48

Where would we try this out? When will the actual product be ready for
delivery?

pdot..

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by pdot.. » Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:11:43


> You know it may be all it's cracked up to be.However,at $3600 you are
> not going to sell to the average or even *** simmer.Now if your
> market is "real" drivers to help with practice sessions etc.,then you
> might sell a few.But as I'm sure you have noticed,at that price in this
> forum all you get to do is defend your product.

JW, assuming it is all it's cracked up to be, at what price point do
you start to get interested?  I mean, does it have to be $300?  Because
something like the GS-1 will never cost that much.  The parts list
alone costs several times more than that.

Pat Dotson
UltraForce Simulators
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

jwilson5

UltraForce GS-1 Tested by Indycar Drivers

by jwilson5 » Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:25:03



>> You know it may be all it's cracked up to be.However,at $3600 you are
>> not going to sell to the average or even *** simmer.Now if your
>> market is "real" drivers to help with practice sessions etc.,then you
>> might sell a few.But as I'm sure you have noticed,at that price in this
>> forum all you get to do is defend your product.

> JW, assuming it is all it's cracked up to be, at what price point do
> you start to get interested?  I mean, does it have to be $300?  Because
> something like the GS-1 will never cost that much.  The parts list
> alone costs several times more than that.

> Pat Dotson
> UltraForce Simulators
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Again,as an average simmer,yes, it would have to be well under $1000.I
am not saying your product is bad,only your market target if it's the
average to *** simmer.If your market target is professional drivers
and teams,then you are well below the Force dynamics product which I
would consider the top of the line.But with a product that does a
similar function for $250,which do you think the average simmer with a
family and bills,and other entertainment costs is going to be able to
justify?

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