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N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

Tim

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Tim » Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:07:27

30mph winds dont count
:)


Marc Collin

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Marc Collin » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:30:24

I was wondering why I was running dead last at so many tracks in N4 set at
full realism and 100%.  Tried Homestead and magically I was mid-pack (about
20th).  Loaded up the BHM set-up and boom, within 3 laps I am running at the
front.  Top 5 easily over the long run.  I don't consider Homestead to be
one of the easier tracks, so why can I run in the top 5 there with zero
practise and about 6 laps under my belt, but at Michigan or Atlanta I am
still at the back of the pack after hundreds of laps.  Atlanta was my best
track in N3 and it sure doesn't seem so hard when I am driving it.  I am
having no problem holding my line, but the speed just isn't there (compared
to the AI).  Something is wrong and it is seeming less and less like it is
me...

Marc.

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Ronnie Bigwhi

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Ronnie Bigwhi » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:38:19

 You can beat ai easily at 100 at any track.


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Uncle Feste

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Uncle Feste » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:06:07


> I was wondering why I was running dead last at so many tracks in N4 set at
> full realism and 100%.  Tried Homestead and magically I was mid-pack (about
> 20th).  Loaded up the BHM set-up and boom, within 3 laps I am running at the
> front.  Top 5 easily over the long run.  I don't consider Homestead to be
> one of the easier tracks, so why can I run in the top 5 there with zero
> practise and about 6 laps under my belt, but at Michigan or Atlanta I am
> still at the back of the pack after hundreds of laps.  Atlanta was my best
> track in N3 and it sure doesn't seem so hard when I am driving it.  I am
> having no problem holding my line, but the speed just isn't there (compared
> to the AI).  Something is wrong and it is seeming less and less like it is
> me...

Just play a little with your Atlanta setup.  100% AI there is not that
hard to keep up with.  Except maybe with the default setups.

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Fester

JJ Srickli

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by JJ Srickli » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:56:25

Marc, if its not one thing its another,. you've made so many various
complaints
slamming N4 that my question is why do you keep the game?
John DiFoo

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by John DiFoo » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:08:04


> So what set-up for Atlanta do you use?  The BHM one is vastly better (for
> me) than the Intermediate or Fast ones, but...

> Marc.

     I tried the BHM one last night there.  My problem is that if I try to
mimic the AI's line and speed, I invariably either spin out or push up
into the wall.  Dunno how they do it.  Has anyone run the 190+ MPH
qualifying laps that the NASCAR boys turned last week?

    John DiFool

Marc Collin

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Marc Collin » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:38:50

Using what set-ups?  On full realism settings?  I somehow don't think this
is the general experience out there.

Marc.


> You can beat ai easily at 100 at any track.



> > I was wondering why I was running dead last at so many tracks in N4 set
at
> > full realism and 100%.  Tried Homestead and magically I was mid-pack
> (about
> > 20th).  Loaded up the BHM set-up and boom, within 3 laps I am running at
> the
> > front.  Top 5 easily over the long run.  I don't consider Homestead to
be
> > one of the easier tracks, so why can I run in the top 5 there with zero
> > practise and about 6 laps under my belt, but at Michigan or Atlanta I am
> > still at the back of the pack after hundreds of laps.  Atlanta was my
best
> > track in N3 and it sure doesn't seem so hard when I am driving it.  I am
> > having no problem holding my line, but the speed just isn't there
> (compared
> > to the AI).  Something is wrong and it is seeming less and less like it
is
> > me...

> > Marc.

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Ronnie Bigwhi

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Ronnie Bigwhi » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:42:50

 Full realism , no driving aids and the crappy Fast setups :)


> Using what set-ups?  On full realism settings?  I somehow don't think this
> is the general experience out there.

> Marc.



> > You can beat ai easily at 100 at any track.



> > > I was wondering why I was running dead last at so many tracks in N4
set
> at
> > > full realism and 100%.  Tried Homestead and magically I was mid-pack
> > (about
> > > 20th).  Loaded up the BHM set-up and boom, within 3 laps I am running
at
> > the
> > > front.  Top 5 easily over the long run.  I don't consider Homestead to
> be
> > > one of the easier tracks, so why can I run in the top 5 there with
zero
> > > practise and about 6 laps under my belt, but at Michigan or Atlanta I
am
> > > still at the back of the pack after hundreds of laps.  Atlanta was my
> best
> > > track in N3 and it sure doesn't seem so hard when I am driving it.  I
am
> > > having no problem holding my line, but the speed just isn't there
> > (compared
> > > to the AI).  Something is wrong and it is seeming less and less like
it
> is
> > > me...

> > > Marc.

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Marc Collin

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Marc Collin » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:37:50

You know, I am really getting tired of asinine non-responses like yours.  If
you don't like what I am posting, don't read it and certainly don't reply to
it.  I am asking others if they are experiencing what I am experiencing.
You can call that a complaint if you want--I don't.  It may turn into a
complain if many others are finding the same things I am, but I am not
stupid enough to assume there is a problem with the game when it may be me.
There are several flaws in N4 that I can be sure of, however.  A moron could
spot them in less than 5 minutes of play.

If you don't have an experience to relate/share, then f*** off.

Marc.


Marc Collin

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Marc Collin » Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:39:50

So what set-up for Atlanta do you use?  The BHM one is vastly better (for
me) than the Intermediate or Fast ones, but...

Marc.



> > I was wondering why I was running dead last at so many tracks in N4 set
at
> > full realism and 100%.  Tried Homestead and magically I was mid-pack
(about
> > 20th).  Loaded up the BHM set-up and boom, within 3 laps I am running at
the
> > front.  Top 5 easily over the long run.  I don't consider Homestead to
be
> > one of the easier tracks, so why can I run in the top 5 there with zero
> > practise and about 6 laps under my belt, but at Michigan or Atlanta I am
> > still at the back of the pack after hundreds of laps.  Atlanta was my
best
> > track in N3 and it sure doesn't seem so hard when I am driving it.  I am
> > having no problem holding my line, but the speed just isn't there
(compared
> > to the AI).  Something is wrong and it is seeming less and less like it
is
> > me...

> Just play a little with your Atlanta setup.  100% AI there is not that
> hard to keep up with.  Except maybe with the default setups.

> --

> Fester

Aubre

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Aubre » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:59:07

This problem exists in every sim.  There is HUGE variation in the skill,
talent and wisdom of sim racers.  N4 cannot be expected to magically know
how quick you are.  That's why they made the AI adjustable in the first
place.  I reccomend you shamelessly set the AI to 99% or whatever, and try
to enjoy it.

-A


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Uncle Feste

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Uncle Feste » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:02:18


> So what set-up for Atlanta do you use?  The BHM one is vastly better (for
> me) than the Intermediate or Fast ones, but...

Honestly, I took one & just used Rodney Arndt's setup guide available at
http://www.sascar.com to further tweak it.  This guide seems to be a
real help.  To anyone out there, I'd suggest reading the entire document
and then really focus on the tire temperature section as you test &
tweak.  I know it has helped me a great deal.  I'm still refining the
setup out at Atlanta myself, but I'm getting much closer to being
content with it.  I've got maybe 2 hours into the tweak project so far.
And keeping up with the AI at 100% here is not a problem.  Keeping up
with the really fast drivers online is a whole lot harder than the AI!
;-)

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Fester

JJ Srickli

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by JJ Srickli » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:17:58

OOOOOOOOh my, is the chip on your shoulder getting a little hard to bear !

I am tired of you fuc***  whinning and taking up bandwidth with you
endless trolling, ass**le !!!!!!!!!!!!!
f*** off yourself  you damn Pimple Farmer !!!!!! and while you at
go change your panties I can smell them from here girly boy.

Uncle Feste

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Uncle Feste » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 07:15:57


>      I tried the BHM one last night there.  My problem is that if I try to
> mimic the AI's line and speed, I invariably either spin out or push up
> into the wall.  Dunno how they do it.  Has anyone run the 190+ MPH
> qualifying laps that the NASCAR boys turned last week?

Yep.  One of my teammates has registered a 191.357 qualifying run at 70F
using a setup we've been developing.

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Fester

Marc Collin

N4: It is the set-ups...and the wonky AI

by Marc Collin » Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:39:21

Show me one post of mine that qualifies as a troll.  People who reply with
useless non-responses are the bandwidth wasters.  Look in the mirror.

Marc.



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