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Ed Benson

Well, that's a given!  I did a 1:30.85, then on the next hotlap, I f_cked up
the Parabolica.  Damn, and I was headed for my first 1:30 then!

out.

Okay, if you have "Racing Groove" turned on (why wouldn't you?), brake at
the point where the line gets dark, or you can use the big sign at the left
to help you.  It's maybe 1/5-mile from the turn (geez, look at that braking
distance!  Thank God for carbon brakes!).  I stay on the brakes (I usually
don't modulate the brakes, but I've recently tried giving them a quick stab
to see how much more I've got) until turn-in, which is right where the line
turns.  I stay a bit to the inside, get on the throttle early, and smoothly
accelerate out, hitting third gear before seeing a certain point on the
outside guardrail.  Somtimes that exit gets me though, and it really sucks
because you***up two laps, not just one.  Two things though...

1: Make sure you have "Braking Help" turned OFF.  It really hurts you more
than helps you.
2: Do not turn the steering wheel as you brake (well, don't turn it while
braking hard).  Also, make sure the car has "settled" (has been going
straight for a moment, not just have come out of a turn) before you brake,
so there is no unwanted lateral (side) weight transfer.

Short-shifting means you upshift a decent amount before the redline - maybe
2/3 up the rev range (i.e. if a 10,000RPM redline, shift at about 6500).

- John P. Wilson :|:
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- Growing Fan of Sierra's "Grand Prix Legends" 1967 Computer Racing
Simulation

Mike.

I had the same problem.  The way I resolved it was by staying in the
middle of the track (avoid the left edge "groove") and braking smoothly
and early starting before the Ford sign on the right.  You *must* brake
smoothly and gradually gear down to 2nd gear.  

For me, I also find that the Ferrari is just *WAY* to jittery under
braking.  The car that seems the easiest to control (provided you don't
try to accelerate too fast) is the Eagle.

Ain't it grand?  The only problem is that it has ruined F1RS for me and I
can no longer drive any other sim.

My understanding is that short-shifting is the practice of up-shifting
early to avoid high-revs and wheel spin.
--
Rob

Oh man, don't I know it!!!  (Actually I posted that time the 2nd day I had the
game.  I've been jumping from track to track & car to car since then, but still
haven't bettered it...)

My problems, as I see them are 2:

1 - I'm too damn competitive for my own good.  In a race against AI, if I see a
car ahead of me, or one in my mirrors, that's like an instant trigger to drive
beyond my abilities.  Can't help it.  Sux, actually...

2 - I've got some inherant desire to fail 8-)  I mean, in training mode I can
tear up 95% of the track, but just when I'm in sight of a personal best I'm
guaranteed to do some stupid s**t to blow it totally.

At Monza, that point is usually Parabolica.  I just cannot find the right
braking and turn-in points on that turn.  I've taken to braking early but even
then, with only moderate braking force the car is all over the road,
side-to-side & more often than not I spin off. Or worse, I make it to the turn
& spin off in that sand-trap, losing 10 or 20 seconds trying to get back out.

Oh well.  I LOVE this game anyway :^) Thanks for your input man, I know it
would work if I could only do it (hehehee) but there's just something in me
that won't let me drive slow!!!!

BTW, "short-shifting"???? (Sorry, I love racing but don't follow it...) Could
you give more detail?  Thanks.

Lee

Yeah, gotta have that groove on :)

 >brake at

I turned off all the aids about an hour after I got the game, when I saw how
hard it was I didn't wanna get dependant on "crutches".

Now that's the hard part... I've been really focusing on getting my braking
done _before_ entry, & ready to get back on the gas as I enter the turn.  It's
helped my times a lot but I still got work to do <G>

OK, I haven't tried that.  I'll give it a shot.  Thanks for the tips!

Lee

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Michael.