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Just for the record...

    More people have been killed in the name of various "Powers That Be" than
Hitler ever thought about killing, so I find any mention of Religion or even
references to the entities those religions theoretically serve to be deeply,
personally offensive.

    Using logic presented elsewhere in this thread, I have to presume anyone
that even mentions this to be an +sshole.  If this person had a conscience, they
would avoid mentioning these "Powers That Be" for the m***good of all mankind.

    The important thing to remember about freedom of speech is that its limits
are not founded in what any individual or group of individuals finds OFFENSIVE.

blah blah blah,

~daxe

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Cheers!
John

Yeah or that it's like Rusty Wallace, hehe.
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That was my point, exactly.  Being offended by something is not a reason to make
someone else stop saying it.  Far too much of people's individual rights are put
aside these days so as not to offend others.  The ridiculous hyper-sensitivity
of some people serves no-one except those selfish whiners doing the complaining.

~daxe

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In the film 'Schindler's list' there is a scene showing a
concentration camp: The SS officer conducting the
camp, a Nazi, gets up in the morning and takes a piss.
After that he steps out on the porch looking around.
He then loads his barrel and shoots a few jewish woman,
children and men that are walking around. Randomly.

This illustrates what was done in the name of the "Hakenkreuz".
It is the reason i feel offended by this person using it as his
pseudonym on r.a.s. and that's all.

--
Greg Hellmann

Yes, I think that's highly offending but then again that's probably
all he wants. After all that's usenet, the only option you have is to
ignore him, better yet, killfile him. Or complain to his ISP - fat
chance he's from AOL...

--Tel

No, tolerance ends only at the action precipitated by the ideology.  Ideology
should not be controlled, nor can it.  And like I mentioned before, more human
suffering has been caused thoughout the course of human history in the name of
religion (Christianity, for example) than Hitler ever caused.  Does that mean
that religions should be treated the way you are proposing we treat people with
Nazi ideologies?

Appropriateness is subjective.  You may well tolerate something I find
intolerable and vice-versa.  Who is correct?

Yes, it was horrible.  I don't think anyone is saying it wasn't.

Put bluntly, why should anyone but YOU care what offends you?  Do you know what
offends me?  Are you going to govern your actions based on what I am offended
by?  If not, why not?   After all, you are expecting others to know and abide by
your sensitivities.

~daxe

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um, daxe, that was a bit of tongue-in-cheek humour.

I'm an atheist meeself.  But I don't get a worm up my ass at reading some
believer's mention of her or his personal belief system or tradition (unless
it happens to be nazism, or something similar).  Because I realize that
while religious beliefs have indeed been a factor in much ***shed and
atrocity, they have also been a factor in much good.  It doesn't take a
genius--and it doesn't mean having to abandon one's own m***integrity--to
admit that.  Although I myself am an atheist, I find the atheist-puritan
stance ("so I find any mention of Religion or even references to the
entities those religions theoretically serve to be deeply, personally
offensive.") to be just a bit, um, dogmatic.

Where are the headlights, indeed?

David,
(a bit of an +sshole to be sure,
but a decent guy nonetheless.)