rec.autos.simulators

by **Michael Barlo** » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Here's something you might want to look at... http://www.racesimcentral.net/

They have been getting sponsorships for quite some time. Sponsors for
individual races, multiple races, season ending, and I would only assume... for
individual drivers too.

Take a look.

Mike Barlow
BTW>: If you look at my tag line, you'll see there's a place there for another
sponsor! With all the attention I'm getting here and on GSB.. It would be a
boost to any potential sponsor.. (hint, hint ;-)

> And we'd need a little utility to push the commercials graphics file from
> the race server to the entire connected tree, this way we'd get sponsors for
> races, sponsors for leagues, and we could offer VIP spectator packages,
> where the VIP spectator gets to talk to the drivers before the races etc...
> And of course pointless post-race interviews... ;-)

> And we'd get teamorders on-track, and we'd get drivers very anxious to loose
> the prize money, and in the process falling into in-line racing, waiting for
> errors and mistakes by the drivers in front. And then we'd get concord
> agreements with the winning teams, and we'd get our very own virtual Bernie
> Ecclestone, and Max Mosley.

> Who'd like to be Schumacher? Anyone? Or Jimmy Clark?

> ---Asgeir---

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by **Mark Seer** » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Hmmm.
If this is anything to go by, I remember Villeneuve using GP2 to learn Spa.
He stated at the time that although he thought the sim was fantastic, he
would never be a good virtual racer. He went on to divulge the fact that he
could only qualify in about 12th place in ace mode.....

Mark

by **Neil Rain** » Sun, 13 Jun 1999 04:00:00

> It's not really true, Fran?ois. When you watch a race it's okay if the
> information is a bit delayed. Even several seconds would be quite
> okay. Imagine you getting a packet per car per second, and then the
> sim could just wait until it gets two packets holding information of
> the same car, then the sim could just "fill in the blanks", which
> wouldn't be too hard to implement. A better solution would probably be
> to wait for the third packet for the car, to "fill in the blanks"
> between the first and second packet, but what do I know :o).

> Say with a 28.8 modem you would receive from one puter and send to
> three others, this means you would get around 750 bytes of bandwidth
> for the car data, per second. For 15 cars it's 50 bytes of data per
> car, which surely is implementable. Maybe even 30 cars would be
> implementable... It should be on a 56k modem...

In fact it can be much better than this.

The key thing is that all packets containing positional information for
the cars (it could just be one packet for all of them actually) need to
contain the exact time of when the positions are intended for.

That way the packets can arrive at any time within the buffering time
delay, and the receiving machine can make a totally smooth replay on the
fly.

Of course, everything I've described could be ditched if they just
implemented streaming-replay technology, as that would have the same
effect. It would require a very fast server (or set of servers) if they
didn't use the networked system of hosts and clients though.

Commercially, streaming video is a much more attractive option, and this
commercial pressure is likely to increase internet bandwidth to make it
possible. Once that happens there will be a vast number of MPEG-streams
to choose from, so the organisers of the GPL championship could just
have their own MPEG channel - that means anyone could receive the
broadcast.

The point about my idea is that it could work NOW, even with the
bandwidth that's currently available on the internet.

Now all I have to do is to pursuade Papy to give me 1% of their
advertising income from this venture... ;-)

by **Neil Rain** » Sun, 13 Jun 1999 04:00:00

> If they were to have no chance against the GPL hotshots, we would finally
> proove that the GPL physics are at fault.

> I make the following assumption:
> If you make a digital box capable of giving dead accurate imputs to a F1 car,
> and placed it in place of the driver, and let the driver remotely steer the
> car with his electronic wheel and pedals, the driver would not be able to
> drive the car any faster than if he was sitting in the car himself. Far from
> it!

> And I find it very hard to believe that the GPL hotshots really are better
> drivers than Schumacher and Clark, Prost and Senna...

They'd only be faster because they've practised more - I'm sure if a top
F1 driver sat down and practised GPL for a few days he'd be right up
there.

No sim on a computer can be identical in feel to a real race car, due to
the lack of G-forces, feel and 3D stereo all-round vision, so of course
they would need to practise to get the feel of the car.

Anyway, I believe that quite a few of the top GPL drivers are in fact
top real-world race drivers as well (eg. Jon Crooke, Australian F2
champion, GPL hotshoe and businessman (making the HyperStimulator
sim-racing "car")).

by **Asgeir Nesoe** » Mon, 14 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Hahaha, how much do you want? I could sponsor you with equipment, you
know... Like running a newgroup for you! HAHAHA!

---Asgeir---

by **Eldre** » Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I've done it as a host from my system at work.(I don't race on it) I've seen
some VERY good races. Exciting to watch! I'd name drivers, but I can't
remember them at the moment... :-(
Eldred

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by **Eldre** » Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>in a much more exiting manner, kudos would be gained by winning hardware
>manufacturers ....hundreds of people watching a race, A driver using a TSW
>wheel wins the race. TSW gets loads of orders in the next week. Sound
>familiar?

>Mark

Sounds like bowling tournaments. Whatever ball wins the tournament sells
BUNCHES the next week. Nevermind that the majority of buyers DON'T have the
skill to *use* it... :-)
Eldred

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by **asgeir nes?e** » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I took you for someone else, in fact I took you for Mark Seery, no
offence either way... It was extremely late at night when I posted
this....

But I could run a Newsgroup for you...

---Asgeir---

> Hahaha, how much do you want? I could sponsor you with equipment, you
> know... Like running a newgroup for you! HAHAHA!

> ---Asgeir---

by **Mark Seer** » Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:00:00

How about alt.Nissans.piss.all.over.triumphs.
Can you get this one up for me Asgie <G>

BTW I'm snapping your heels at Monaco now ;-)

Cheers mate
Mark

> I took you for someone else, in fact I took you for Mark Seery, no
> offence either way... It was extremely late at night when I posted
> this....

> But I could run a Newsgroup for you...

> ---Asgeir---

> > Hahaha, how much do you want? I could sponsor you with equipment, you
> > know... Like running a newgroup for you! HAHAHA!

> > ---Asgeir---

by **asgeir nes?e** » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Nope, sorry about that, but I am all against capital letters in NG names.
What about alt.nissans.suck.big.time? Or how about
alt.autos.triumphs.are.better.than.new.crap? I have even more suggestions:
alt.autos.triumphs.six.is.better.than.four?

;-)

---Asgeir---

> How about alt.Nissans.piss.all.over.triumphs.
> Can you get this one up for me Asgie <G>

> BTW I'm snapping your heels at Monaco now ;-)

> Cheers mate
> Mark

> > I took you for someone else, in fact I took you for Mark Seery, no
> > offence either way... It was extremely late at night when I posted
> > this....

> > But I could run a Newsgroup for you...

> > ---Asgeir---

> > > Hahaha, how much do you want? I could sponsor you with equipment, you
> > > know... Like running a newgroup for you! HAHAHA!

> > > ---Asgeir---

by **Mark Seer** » Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Old ***actually. Mine is 16 this year.

metter make that alt.six.is.better.than.3.and.1/2.cyl.most.of.the.time <G>

Mark

> ;-)

> ---Asgeir---

> > How about alt.Nissans.piss.all.over.triumphs.
> > Can you get this one up for me Asgie <G>

> > BTW I'm snapping your heels at Monaco now ;-)

> > Cheers mate
> > Mark

> > > I took you for someone else, in fact I took you for Mark Seery, no
> > > offence either way... It was extremely late at night when I posted
> > > this....

> > > But I could run a Newsgroup for you...

> > > ---Asgeir---

> > > > Hahaha, how much do you want? I could sponsor you with equipment,
you
> > > > know... Like running a newgroup for you! HAHAHA!

> > > > ---Asgeir---

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