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by **Pickar** » Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I'm actually bored with it!!!!!!

Yep.. not that it isn't a great sim.. but the fact that every single race
is the same.. online, offline.. the same conditions.. same setup.. same ..
SAME.. :-)

I can't wait for GP3 where we will have dinamic weather.. where setup will
actually be NEEDED!!!! and you will have to change the steup to suit the
weather conditions..

Pit stops.. etc.. just somthing different.. because I've just got sick
of Legneds :-)

Oh well.. too much of a good thing........

James Pickard,
Melbourne
AUSTRALA
GPL Australian Champion - Season 1

by **Marc Collin** » Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:00:00

You don't need a setup for GPL???--you must be a phenomenal driver!!!!

Marc.

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Guess your heart was never really in it. To me it gets more interesting all
the time. I'm very busy professionally at the moment and I begrudge not
being able to get the track time I want to be getting. Then again, I'm still
learning. GPL is the first "game" where, after more than a year, I can't see
the learning curve flattening out.

Jan.
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by **Andre Warring** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

What he means is that once you've got a good setup, there's no need to
change it. If there would be weather conditions, you would have to
setup your car according to the circumstances of the weather.

Andre

On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:45:52 GMT, "Marc Collins"

>You don't need a setup for GPL???--you must be a phenomenal driver!!!!

>Marc.

>> I'm actually bored with it!!!!!!

>> Yep.. not that it isn't a great sim.. but the fact that every single
>race
>> is the same.. online, offline.. the same conditions.. same setup.. same
>..
>> SAME.. :-)

>> I can't wait for GP3 where we will have dinamic weather.. where setup
>will
>> actually be NEEDED!!!! and you will have to change the steup to suit the
>> weather conditions..

>> Pit stops.. etc.. just somthing different.. because I've just got
>sick
>> of Legneds :-)

>> Oh well.. too much of a good thing........

>> James Pickard,
>> Melbourne
>> AUSTRALA
>> GPL Australian Champion - Season 1

by **mark jeangerar** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Well, obviously! You're playing GPM2, after all...

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www.soundchaserweb.com
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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

My sentiments EXACTLY, Jan.

It is coming up to the anniversary of when this game was released and I am
as fascinated by it now as I was when the demo first appeared!

Incidentally, I still have yet to run a race at Mexico City!

> Guess your heart was never really in it. To me it gets more interesting
all
> the time. I'm very busy professionally at the moment and I begrudge not
> being able to get the track time I want to be getting. Then again, I'm
still
> learning. GPL is the first "game" where, after more than a year, I can't
see
> the learning curve flattening out.

> Jan.
> ----

> > I'm actually bored with it!!!!!!

> > Yep.. not that it isn't a great sim.. but the fact that every single
> race
> > is the same.. online, offline.. the same conditions.. same setup..
same
> ..
> > SAME.. :-)
> <snip>

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

..........and then you wouldn't need to change the wet setup either!

> What he means is that once you've got a good setup, there's no need to
> change it. If there would be weather conditions, you would have to
> setup your car according to the circumstances of the weather.

> Andre

> On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 23:45:52 GMT, "Marc Collins"

> >You don't need a setup for GPL???--you must be a phenomenal driver!!!!

> >Marc.

> >> I'm actually bored with it!!!!!!

> >> Yep.. not that it isn't a great sim.. but the fact that every single
> >race
> >> is the same.. online, offline.. the same conditions.. same setup..
same
> >..
> >> SAME.. :-)

> >> I can't wait for GP3 where we will have dinamic weather.. where setup
> >will
> >> actually be NEEDED!!!! and you will have to change the steup to suit
the
> >> weather conditions..

> >> Pit stops.. etc.. just somthing different.. because I've just got
> >sick
> >> of Legneds :-)

> >> Oh well.. too much of a good thing........

> >> James Pickard,
> >> Melbourne
> >> AUSTRALA
> >> GPL Australian Champion - Season 1

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by **Zonk** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>...........and then you wouldn't need to change the wet setup either!

>> What he means is that once you've got a good setup, there's no need to
>> change it. If there would be weather conditions, you would have to
>> setup your car according to the circumstances of the weather.

>> Andre

No one's talking about wet weather Bruce, but changing weather. If you knew by
a "forecast" the chance of rain durin a race you might have to decide or not
to run a comprimse setup or not.....

Z.

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

So GP3 is having changeable weather?

> >...........and then you wouldn't need to change the wet setup either!

> >> What he means is that once you've got a good setup, there's no need to
> >> change it. If there would be weather conditions, you would have to
> >> setup your car according to the circumstances of the weather.

> >> Andre

> No one's talking about wet weather Bruce, but changing weather. If you
knew by
> a "forecast" the chance of rain durin a race you might have to decide or
not
> to run a comprimse setup or not.....

> Z.

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by **Zonk** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>So GP3 is having changeable weather?

One hopes so. See MGPRS2 for how interesting weather stratergy can become-
though it lacks a really good forecasting report pre-race.

Z.

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by **Michael E. Carve** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

% What he means is that once you've got a good setup, there's no need to
% change it. If there would be weather conditions, you would have to
% setup your car according to the circumstances of the weather.

I think there is alot left in the setup arena that many folks haven't
even touched yet. Yeh, you can have a hot setup, but that doesn't mean
there isn't some room for improvement. I am finding new things all the
time, just requires some experimenting with some of the things people
don't change that much (ramp angle, bump/rebound) and even things people
think are cast in concrete (gearing, clutches).

But, if you are bored, you're bored....

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by **Andre Warring** » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I completly agree with you. Alison and hotshots like Woeger and Huttu
showed us what you can do with the setups. And experimenting with
setups definately doesn't bore me!
But Patrick, who's bored with GPL (I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT!) stated
that you only need one setup for a race. If you would have changeable
weather conditions, setup strategy would become even more interesting.

I also agree with that.

Andre

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:06:21 GMT, "Michael E. Carver"

>% What he means is that once you've got a good setup, there's no need to
>% change it. If there would be weather conditions, you would have to
>% setup your car according to the circumstances of the weather.

>I think there is alot left in the setup arena that many folks haven't
>even touched yet. Yeh, you can have a hot setup, but that doesn't mean
>there isn't some room for improvement. I am finding new things all the
>time, just requires some experimenting with some of the things people
>don't change that much (ramp angle, bump/rebound) and even things people
>think are cast in concrete (gearing, clutches).

>But, if you are bored, you're bored....

by **Todd A Norbur** » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Agreed Bruce. The SLONG guys have just started racing at Spa! We are
loving it. We have mainly concentrated on WG, Monza, Silverstone. So
there is plenty more to be looked at. I cant remember a racing sim with
the longetvity that GPL has.

> My sentiments EXACTLY, Jan.

> It is coming up to the anniversary of when this game was released and I am
> as fascinated by it now as I was when the demo first appeared!

> Incidentally, I still have yet to run a race at Mexico City!

> > Guess your heart was never really in it. To me it gets more interesting
> all
> > the time. I'm very busy professionally at the moment and I begrudge not
> > being able to get the track time I want to be getting. Then again, I'm
> still
> > learning. GPL is the first "game" where, after more than a year, I can't
> see
> > the learning curve flattening out.

> > Jan.
> > ----

> > > I'm actually bored with it!!!!!!

> > > Yep.. not that it isn't a great sim.. but the fact that every single
> > race
> > > is the same.. online, offline.. the same conditions.. same setup..
> same
> > ..
> > > SAME.. :-)
> > <snip>

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

That's what was thinking and, in fact, what I and a colleague have been
discussing. he has had the sim for about 9 months and, apart from a quick
"look" at all the tracks, he has not even practised at over half of them!
Because he has had personal experience with Rouen and Monaco, they have been
high on his list, but Spa has become his favourite, even though he hasn't
completed a race there!

> Agreed Bruce. The SLONG guys have just started racing at Spa! We are
> loving it. We have mainly concentrated on WG, Monza, Silverstone. So
> there is plenty more to be looked at. I cant remember a racing sim with
> the longetvity that GPL has.

> > My sentiments EXACTLY, Jan.

> > It is coming up to the anniversary of when this game was released and I
am
> > as fascinated by it now as I was when the demo first appeared!

> > Incidentally, I still have yet to run a race at Mexico City!

> > > Guess your heart was never really in it. To me it gets more
interesting
> > all
> > > the time. I'm very busy professionally at the moment and I begrudge
not
> > > being able to get the track time I want to be getting. Then again, I'm
> > still
> > > learning. GPL is the first "game" where, after more than a year, I
can't
> > see
> > > the learning curve flattening out.

> > > Jan.
> > > ----

> > > > I'm actually bored with it!!!!!!

> > > > Yep.. not that it isn't a great sim.. but the fact that every
single
> > > race
> > > > is the same.. online, offline.. the same conditions.. same setup..
> > same
> > > ..
> > > > SAME.. :-)
> > > <snip>

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by **Phillip McNell** » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I can understand James's view here. The lack of pit stops and variable
weather do make every race a sprint from start to finish. There is
little or no strategy involved. When you consider that many of us
would have now have now done more race laps than any real racer in
history I can understand that one may like to have more texture in the
race experience fabric.

James's problem may be that he's just too darn fast for his own good.
While he can do 1:27s at Monza with defaults most of us can't. Many of
us can't even do so with the most tweaked setups Internet time can
ferret out. ( Heck James was still killing us when in the slower cars
for heaven's sake ).

Pit stops would have been nice. I don't think anyone would disagree
with this. Maybe they couldn't get them in the code in time, or
whatever. Better information back from the cars would be nice. ( Yes
they never had telemetry but they still had tricks to help tell what
was going on. Eg. putting a dab of grease on the shock shafts so that
when they came in you could see how much travel you were using. Other
tricks too. GPL gives absolutely nothing here. )

Regards

Phillip McNelley

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