N4???
Is there any different in handling between them..?
James
Is there any different in handling between them..?
James
Stupid question, but is that also the case in real life?
In GPL each car feels totally different, why not in N4 I wonder..
Andre
>> Just wondering, is there any difference between the different chassis in
>> N4???
>> Is there any different in handling between them..?
>> James
In N3 they had Chassis 1, 2 and 3 (which were assumed to mean the different
makes) and they did have differences in the game.
In N4 they paid for the license to use the actual design and names of the
car makes. Chevy, Ford, Pontiac and Dodge. My guess would be that they are
not actually different in the game as far as performance goes for a few
reasons.
The main one is that I imagine that the actual manufacturers wanted them to
all be the same. Imagine if they were different and the Ford chassis in
the game was known to be the best and Pontiac was known to be the worst by
the avid gamers. I do not think that Pontiac would like that. So to avoid
all of that, they probably just made them the same.
Another reason would be that the car makes are constantly changing. Chevy
gets a change here and Ford gets a change there... rules are changed which
causes performance to change, etc... No way to keep up with that. Another
reason to just make them all the same.
> >No, they are all identical
> Stupid question, but is that also the case in real life?
> In GPL each car feels totally different, why not in N4 I wonder..
> Andre
> >> Just wondering, is there any difference between the different chassis
in
> >> N4???
> >> Is there any different in handling between them..?
> >> James
>>No, they are all identical
> Stupid question, but is that also the case in real life?
> In GPL each car feels totally different, why not in N4 I wonder..
Oh, and the headlights and radiator grilles are stickers.
Marc
Sounds exactly like R/C touring cars... ;-)
Seriously though, the body is a major aero tuning aid. /All/ the top
guys seem to run an Andy's (a bodyshell manufacturer) Dodge Stratus.
Jonny
> > A little while back I saw some NASCAR crew chief being interviewed
> on TV.
> > His team had just announced that it was switching manufacturers,
> Pontiac
> > to Ford, or Chevy to Dodge, or some such thing, I don't remember.
> Anyway,
> > the reporter asked him when he expected to take delivery of the new
> cars.
> > The crew chief looked surprised and then explained that there were
> no
> > new cars; they were just going to keep using the same cars they had
> used
> > before, but with new body panels. They're all the same.
> > Oh, and the headlights and radiator grilles are stickers.
> Sounds exactly like R/C touring cars... ;-)
> Seriously though, the body is a major aero tuning aid. /All/ the top
> guys seem to run an Andy's (a bodyshell manufacturer) Dodge Stratus.
> Jonny
>LOL!.
>You know nothing about NASCAR.
>They are NOT the same.
The Chevy/Ford/whatever aren't THAT different, come on now...<g>
Eldred
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Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
F1 hcp. +20.90...F2 +151.26...
Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Each series, whether it be NASCAR Winston Cup, Busch or even ARCA or ASA can
all use the same "CHASSIS" between manufacturers! (This is what helps to
make racing more affordable.) By manufacturers I mean their engine/body
manufacturer (i.e Dodge , GM, Ford, Pontiac) The differences come with the
body and engine regulations/designs. This is what affects the aerodynamics
packages and power/torque. The chassis themselves are fabricated pieces
that don't give a rats-ass who's manufacturers nameplate is on them. So in
the context of the interview Andre was referring to, he is absolutely RIGHT
and you are absolutely WRONG!!
Having said that, there are different manufacturers for chassis' as well.
Many teams build their own in-house, others choose to purchase them.
Hopkins, and Laughlin are two of the most popular 'brands' of chassis' in
WC, Busch, and ARCA. Someone buying a chassis can specify what kind of
chassis they want (Superspeedway, Speedway, Short track or Road Course) and
even make more specific requirements for it (i.e drop snout with a lowered
left rail etc...). So while the chassis may not be identical between
competitors on any given Sunday, they are interchangeable )and for all
intensive purposes identical) between engine manufacturers.
I hope this helps clear the mud some people caused.
Regards,
Mike Basden
(Former ARCA Crew Chief and Craftsman Truck crew member)
>>>No, they are all identical
>> Stupid question, but is that also the case in real life?
>> In GPL each car feels totally different, why not in N4 I wonder..
>A little while back I saw some NASCAR crew chief being interviewed on TV.
>His team had just announced that it was switching manufacturers, Pontiac
>to Ford, or Chevy to Dodge, or some such thing, I don't remember. Anyway,
>the reporter asked him when he expected to take delivery of the new cars.
>The crew chief looked surprised and then explained that there were no
>new cars; they were just going to keep using the same cars they had used
>before, but with new body panels. They're all the same.
Take a Square body stlye and race it verse a car with an arrow body
style.
Which one do u think will win?
>>>=20
>>>>No, they are all identical
>>>=20
>>> Stupid question, but is that also the case in real life?
>>> In GPL each car feels totally different, why not in N4 I wonder..
>>A little while back I saw some NASCAR crew chief being interviewed on =
> TV.
>>His team had just announced that it was switching manufacturers, Pontiac
>>to Ford, or Chevy to Dodge, or some such thing, I don't remember. =
> Anyway,
>>the reporter asked him when he expected to take delivery of the new =
> cars.
>>The crew chief looked surprised and then explained that there were no
>>new cars; they were just going to keep using the same cars they had used
>>before, but with new body panels. They're all the same.
> LOL!.
> You know nothing about NASCAR.
> They are NOT the same.
> Take a Square body stlye and race it verse a car with an arrow body
> style.
> Which one do u think will win?
1) True, I don't know much about NASCAR, although I wouldn't say it's nothing.
2) In this context, it doesn't matter what *I* know, because I'm just reporting
what someone who does know said.
3) A body is not a chassis. When I said "car" I suppose I should have said
"chassis", but the crew chief on TV said "car" so I stayed with his usage.
He's the one who knows about NASCAR after all, right?
And the headlights and radiator grilles are still stickers.
Marc
: Ok, I guess others have already responded to this pretty well, but
basically
: the points as I see them are:
: 1) True, I don't know much about NASCAR, although I wouldn't say it's
nothing.
You made a discovery!
: 3) A body is not a chassis. When I said "car" I suppose I should have
said
: "chassis", but the crew chief on TV said "car" so I stayed with his
usage.
: He's the one who knows about NASCAR after all, right?
For those of us who know. We know what you mean.
Everyone having the same chassis style, that's Nascar's decision for parity
between the makes. It is cheaper, and it makes it more controllable and
easier for them to police.
: And the headlights and radiator grilles are still stickers.
Actually, the radiator grilles are real. They use a fine mesh for the brake
ducts and radiator grilles.
The headlights and tail-lights are stickers though.
Some general TC pictures are on www.brca.org
HPI, including bodyshells (190mm are the usual ones):
www.hpiracing.com
You can probably find some pics of "readers' rides" by lurking on
rec.models.rc.land and following homepage links, too...
Jonny