rec.autos.simulators

by **Jimmy Jaz** » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:06:55

GPL has fixes for both those issues. Also, there are utilities that will
slow down your cpu to make any game playable on them. Search fro CPUGrab on
google and Winthrottle. Higher values in CPUGrab means it uses more of the
cpu so will slow it down more.

by **Luvrsme** » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:59:10

>> Net Q RAC rally (once the grip patch had been applied) was a great rally
>> sim.

> Is that the British one that we call Mobil1 Rally over here? I have that
> one if it is what you are talking about.

Yes that is the British one...the real live event.
I'm running it on an AMD K5/233 MHz system, a 4mb Rage II card, IBM Mwave
ISA audio, 64mb simms and it runs very well.
The cars lean into the corners, you have bumper, interior, and high cam
driving choices. All the cars sound different than the other, you have night
driving, rain (w/lightning), snow (while snowing!).
It has tuning setups and also works with my GForce Wingman Force Feedback
wheel. All around a great classic Rally sim...

by **Jimmy Jaz** » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:43:30

Yea, it was good but it makes my FFB wheel shake way too much.

by **murph101** » Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:01:35

>> A posting line wrap could be your friend.

>> I know of several games that won't work on any processor that is
>> faster than 500-600MHz.
>> Some games will just freak out running on a faster processor than they
>> were coded for.
>> GPL is one & then there is the DirectX issue.

> GPL has fixes for both those issues. Also, there are utilities that will
> slow down your cpu to make any game playable on them. Search fro CPUGrab
> on
> google and Winthrottle. Higher values in CPUGrab means it uses more of the
> cpu so will slow it down more.

Why too much hassle using all these patches and gimmicks to run old games on
a new fast computer.
Much easier I have found to run the game on the speed of a computer that it
was designed for. Plus older computers use less power/electricity and run
cooler. Why fire up a 650 watt computer when 200 watt will do just fine.
Plus there's a certain "Feel" to the game on a computer that it was designed
for. Also many Graphic card issues to deal with... DirectX related or not,
some poorly coded games were designed to run on certain graphic cards
only... Why do you think they bundle games to sell graphic cards?

by **jeffarei** » Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:45:39

Simple still, just install GPL 2004 Demo which has all the fixes, then
copy the remaining tracks (all but Watkins Glen) from you GPL cd-rom.

http://www.bhmotorsports.com/GPL/downloads/3239

I also recommend getting the ring trainer for Nurburg.

http://www.joachimblum.de/ringtrainer.htm

by **murph101** » Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:53:28

I'm talking about games here. When did GPL become a Game?

;-)

by **Rotten Ronn** » Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:34:58

I bet my modern computer is more energy efficient than your old door stop
any day. If your PC is setup right then both the cpu and GPU throttle back
to a lower power mode when not running games.

by **Rotten Ronn** » Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:36:19

Not if you have a USB wheel. For that you need VDMsound.

by **murph101** » Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:41:18

>>Plus older computers use less power/electricity and run cooler. Why fire
>>up a 650 watt computer when 200 watt will do just fine.

> I bet my modern computer is more energy efficient than your old door stop
> any day. If your PC is setup right then both the cpu and GPU throttle back
> to a lower power mode when not running games.

HA! What about when running games? Ya know you can play for many many hours
at a time, even days!.
Then when not playing the doorstop is off! 600 to 1000 watts is pretty much
the standard today for *** rigs.
Watts is Watts, what is so hard to understand? BTW my Dual Xeon's will never
"Throttle Back"!

by **Rotten Ronn** » Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:19:41

Watts = volts x amps. If I throttle the cpu it is using less watts and runs
cooler just like your door stop. Only it can ramp up to run the latest games
when needed. I bet you use a CRT too which uses far more watts and puts out
far more heat than my LCD.

by **APLe** » Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:23:24

>> HA! What about when running games? Ya know you can play for many many
>> hours at a time, even days!.
>> Then when not playing the doorstop is off! 600 to 1000 watts is pretty
>> much the standard today for *** rigs.
>> Watts is Watts, what is so hard to understand? BTW my Dual Xeon's will
>> never "Throttle Back"!

> Watts = volts x amps. If I throttle the cpu it is using less watts and
> runs cooler just like your door stop. Only it can ramp up to run the
> latest games when needed. I bet you use a CRT too which uses far more
> watts and puts out far more heat than my LCD.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Even *if* you go into
standby - where you can't use the computer at *all*, The power supply is
still consuming more power. A 600 watt power supply (not unreasonable
these days) wastes more at "idle" that a 250 watt PS would running full
tilt (what they had back in the 486 days). And then there's the monitor.
It has it's *own* power supply. And if you have cable/DSL there's another
drain that *doesn't* go into "sleep" mode *ever*. Aside from that, they
stopped putting turbo switches in computers when the pentium came out, so
they *always* run at full speed, unlike before.

BTW the term for power consumption is *power*. Watts is the quantity of power
used, not the noun.

by **Rotten Ronn** » Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:14:25

Wow, well, here's news for you dumbass. I have Vista set to hibernate and
not go into standby so it is using the same amount of power as if the PC was
turned off when it is idle. Lets see you do that on your POS Dos/Win3.1 box.
I don't care if you call it power or watts, I don't think anyone else cares
either. My state of the art PC can be made to be more energy efficient than
some 1995 era POS. 650w PSU does not mean it is using 650w either moron. It
only uses what it needs. When the cpu is throttled it uses less power than
when it is running at full power. Same goes for my video card. The video
card only ramps up to full speed when needed to.

by **Rotten Ronn** » Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:18:58

Proof you are out to lunch. You don't even know that all modern cpu and gpu
throttle their speed to conserve power except when needed to run full tilt.
***ing luddite.

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