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Just wondering.

Thanks,
Alex

I live in Bethlehem only about 10 - 15 min from the track.  I was in NY for
the weekend but got back in time to drive by the track so I could just
'listen' to the race.

There were a few articles in the paper today that there is a chance CART
could be back to Nazareth.  It's hard to believe a track owned by Penske and
that has Michael and Mario as ambassadors can't keep a CART race.  It's a
shame.

--
Scott B. Husted
PA-Scott
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Its a little bit of a stretch,.. Okay a long stretch, but there is always
Montreal for 2002....
Canadian beer is strong, and the American dollar is worth $1.50. Plus its
gonna be an excellent Champcar race, and Montreal is a nice city to boot..

if you don't mind the 7 hour drive,...

Street Races
NYC - One would assume CART has tried all it can do to do a street race in
New York, and if there has been no progress yet, I doubt it will ever
happen.
Philly - Probably more feasible than NYC, but still unlikely. Since it's a
street race it would be a great draw, but the race would suck big time.

Other:
- Keep Nazareth, I believe CART is starting to reconsider taking Nazareth
off the schedule due to the loss of Texas and Rio.
- Organize CART sponsored bus trips from major cities in the Northeast to
Cleveland, Toronto, and Montreal

--
Gary

Toronto will be around forever. Not the best race (but then, neither
has Nazareth been recently, though this year turned out well), but a
great event.

As to your other options-

The Glen- Would be nice, but Road Atlanta makes a lot more sense if
you're going to add a permanent road course to the schedule.

Pocono-  I've seen many posts suggesting it, but safety seems to be
the big issue. It sure is fun in ICR2, though.

Lime Rock- Not big-league in terms of facilities. Would the race be
any good? Turn 1 would be a passing opportunity, with maybe a change
to re-pass at the first left (whatever number that is). And would the
cars handle the hill, or would bottoming be too severe?

Dover- IRL's been there. Track surface is hell for open wheelers.

New Hampshire- Do they deserve a second chance?

You just need to move a bit further north ;-). From Rochester, NY,
Nazareth, Toronto, and Cleveland can be done in one day if you really
have to, with Mid-Ohio, Montreal, and Indy within comfortable driving
range. Unfortunately, Indy and Toronto are the only ones that I've
actually been to, and I'll be moving to D.C. soon.

Jonathan

JB

Jesse Black

| Uh oh...I live in Nazareth...can you say Lan party?
| Jesse Black
|

Another problem is, if Gil & Dario hadn't got together it would have been
another boring Nazareth race.  It's about time a bulldozer gets taken to that
track an reconfigured into a wider more race friendly track.  A 3/4/5/6/7
(depends on who you talk to)  turn 1 mile 'oval' just doesn't produce good
racing.  Today I watched the race on TV (I was at the track - btw did anyone
else notice that Brack's engine was way 'quieter' than the others?) and throught
the first half I was totally bored.  It wasn't really and exciting race until it
came down to the question of could race winner Scott Dixon make it on fuel and
hold off Brack?  Last year if the caution hadn't come out at the precise wrong
time, we wouldn't have been treated to Montoya rocketing up the rundown passing
like a daemon possesed (or like Kenny yesterday!).  That's kinda the reputation
that the Naz has and it needs a facelift to shake.

While CART shouldn't turn it's back on the northeast (Pocono with it's new
surface would be excellent racing), someone has to come up with another good
venue for CART.  And not another damn road course.

As to the Andretti ambassadorship, well, it won't be long before you can say
"Hey, there's Mario!" and some new fan will be saying "Mario who?  Oh, Michael's
Dad."  Those of us who have been around are very aware of his contributions to
the sport.  Michael hasn't really been someone I'd particularly want as an
ambassador.  His ego tends to get in the way.  They can plead all they like and
drum up some support by doing so, but I doubt it will be enough to change the
collective minds of CART where they look at things like the 'bottom line' with
increasing fascination.

I blame two bodies for the decline in big time open wheel racing: CART for
getting way too involved in road courses and Tony George for sticking with an
increasingly incompetent USAC (although he eventually had to give them the
boot).

As to the petition to keep the race in Nazareth, well, I might have been born
there, but I couldn't sign and wouldn't until they fix the track itself.

Thanks,
Alex

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
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Yes Mr P...Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets
you. So Touche`Touche` Eldred..lol Dont forget tho' Sometimes that
bear just wont come out of that dern` cave.. <G>

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| Eldred
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| Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
| Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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| Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
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| with experience...
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| I lived in VA until about 3 years ago when I moved up here to PA...So you
| were right in thinking I lived in VA (back in the CPR days).
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