rec.autos.simulators

Race Final               6/23           Race No. 12         Michigan
Speedway
                         2.000 miles    50 laps
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Fin Str      Driver                     Laps  Led   Pts  Qual  Reason
Out
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 1  12  #23  Jimmy Spencer               50    9   180  39.395
Running
 2  10   #1  Steve Park                  50    0   170  39.363
Running
 3   4  #21  Michael Waltrip             50    0   165  39.269
Running
 4  18  #99  Jeff Burton                 50    0   160  39.486
Running
 5  23  #28  Kenny Irwin Jr.             50    0   155  39.628
Running
 6  25  #30  Derrike Cope                50    0   150  39.726
Running
 7  11   #2  Rusty Wallace               50    0   146  39.387
Running
 8   9  #36  Ernie Irvan                 50    0   142  39.336
Running
 9   7  #40  Sterling Marlin             50    0   138  39.332
Running
10   3   #5  Terry Labonte               50    0   134  39.114
Running
11  34  #75  Rick Mast                   49    0   130  39.953
Running
12  15  #88  Dale Jarrett                49    0   127  39.431
Running
13  17   #4  Bobby Hamilton              49    0   124  39.481
Running
14   5   #3  Dale Earnhardt              49    0   121  39.282
Running
15  28  #81  Kenny Wallace               49    0   118  39.796
Running
16  33  #44  Kyle Petty                  49    0   115  39.916
Running
17  27  #11  Brett Bodine                49    0   112  39.781
Running
18  21  #26  Johnny Benson               49    0   109  39.563
Running
19  36  #10  Ricky Rudd                  49    0   106  40.080
Running
20  37  #42  Joe Nemechek                49    0   103  40.241
Running
21  19  #35  Darrell Waltrip             48    0   100  39.536
Running
22  38  #71  Dave Marcis                 46    0    97  40.261
Running
23   8  #94  Bill Elliott                41    0    94  39.336
Accident
24   1   #6  Mark Martin                 41   39   101  39.001
Accident
25   6  #24  Jeff Gordon                 41    0    88  39.311
Accident
26  16  #31  Mike Skinner                41    0    85  39.465
Accident
27   2  #12  Jeremy Mayfield             41    2    87  39.010
Accident
28  32  #90  Dick Trickle                40    0    79  39.881
Accident
29  14  #33  Ken Schrader                40    0    76  39.423
Accident
30  24  #43  John Andretti               40    0    73  39.719
Accident
31  29   #9  Jerry Nadeau                40    0    70  39.801
Accident
32  31   #7  Geoff Bodine                40    0    67  39.870
Accident
33  35  #77  Robert Pressley             40    0    64  39.998
Accident
34  26  #97  Chad Little                 40    0    61  39.750
Accident
35  30  #98  Rich Bickle                 40    0    58  39.814
Accident
36  20  #16  Kevin Lepage                40    0    55  39.536
Accident
37  13  #18  Bobby Labonte               40    0    52  39.416
Accident
38  22  #22  Ward Burton                 21    0    49  39.588
Gearbox

You rarely see these kinds of accidents started by a single AI car
spinning! If anyone is interested in seeing the replay, I have it on
my hard drive.What was most amazing (apart from Steve Park finishing
second) was that it only took them two laps to clear the field!

Will N3 include red flags?

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"If the meaning of life was printed in a book, someone
 would use it to keep the window open."

    The time it takes to "clean up a mess" is also my complaint about
N2/99/50th; not only does it seem to happen too quickly, but since you see
no "clean up" it just feels like you're suddenly doing a bunch of 45mph
laps...

    Red flags would be cool...

    Side question: is yellow-flag speed limit the same as pit road speed
limit in RL?  Seems that way in N2/99/50th.  I'm sure the WC cars don't go
that slow during yellow - do they?

"Gunner"
ORSA Bronze #78 Navy Dodge truck

I'm not sure for all tracks, but no, the pit road speed limit is not the same
as the pace car speed limit.  At Daytona, I think the pit road limit is like 65
and pace laps are around 75mph because they need to maintain that speed so they
don't slide down the banking.
Racer X
Veteran Sim Racer
Victory Lane-
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/

If the crash is so bad then yes. I'm not saying they should simulate
drivers trying to get out of their cars in the middle of the pileup,
just that each car is towed out of the track (even if at a faster pace
than in real life) and once the raceway is clear, you would be allowed
to start driving again.

Just make it optional and no-one would mind I'm sure.

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"If the meaning of life was printed in a book, someone
 would use it to keep the window open."

<snip>

No, the yellow flag and pit road speeds aren't neccesarily the same.  NASCAR
does run the pitroad speed limit during some of the pace laps so  the teams
can get the exact RPM's they should run to be at the limit.  This is when
you see two (or more?) groups of cars, each behind different pace cars.

--

Ken

"If I went 'round claiming I was Emperor because some
 moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away" - anonymous
peasant

Go #43 and #44!

volksy (at) geocities (dot) com
volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

-Larry