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by **Joachim Trens** » Mon, 26 Aug 2002 21:20:06

I have a client replay of a guy doing more than 10000rpm just before Scierie
at Rouen on two different laps. On these laps he did a 1:57 and a 1:58,
whereas before with everything normal rpm-wise his laptimes used to be in
the 2:05 range.

In these laps he also exits from Grsil about 8mph slower than I would and
yet manages to reach 196mph (and still brake in time for Scierie), whereas
I, although I should reach a higher speed than him (spoiler 60 here) only
get to about 194 if I still want to brake in time for Scierie.

Another guy in the replay does the same rpm but only reaches something in
the 170mph range in terms of speed.

Has anyone seen or heard similar reports - is it a new cheat or just
warping?

Achim

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 00:11:56

"Joachim Trensz"

Has anyone seen or heard similar reports - is it a new cheat or just
Replays are focus'd on your car and don't do a very good job with the
others. Many times 3 people have complained about a wreck cuz their own
replays show the other guy caused it...all three...
If you had the server replay that might help...
But it certainly appears suspicious.
dave henrie

by **David Powel** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 00:24:30

I know lots of people how have opened the .exe in a nex editor, theyre also
planning to make a GT40 :)

by **Eldre** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 02:49:04

>I have a client replay of a guy doing more than 10000rpm just before Scierie
>at Rouen on two different laps. On these laps he did a 1:57 and a 1:58,
>whereas before with everything normal rpm-wise his laptimes used to be in
>the 2:05 range.

Wait - you guys can run a 2:05 at Rouen in a NASCAR?!? Damn, I can barely do
that with a lighter(and presumably more manuverable) Lotus...
Now I'm curious what WOULD my time be in N2k2. I'll guess about 2:30-2:40.
Maybe I'll try to find that converted after all...

Eldred
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by **Joachim Trens** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 04:55:13

thanks for the comments guys.

I'd normally also say 'warp', but since a couple of things came together, I
was wondering a bit.

Achim

by **ymenar** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 02:50:34

> Has anyone seen or heard similar reports - is it a new cheat or just
> warping?

NR2002 is completely messed up and won't ever be fixed. I've known numbers
of people who stopped racing because Papyrus doesn't want to fix the holes
in the sim. Anybody can cheat, it's very easy, and intelligent people won't
be ever caught as they know to only increase their potential power by a
small margin, not like that dumb person that you saw on the track.

What a shame.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **ymenar** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 04:27:35

> Wait - you guys can run a 2:05 at Rouen in a NASCAR?!? Damn, I can barely
do
> that with a lighter(and presumably more manuverable) Lotus...
> Now I'm curious what WOULD my time be in N2k2. I'll guess about

2:30-2:40.

Not only is it easier to be consistent driving a stock-car on road course
compared to GPL, the laptimes are pretty close to those found in GPL. Just
look at the free convertor and the small difference found in laptimes.
Approx 105%

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-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Goy Larse** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 05:14:37

> I have a client replay of a guy doing more than 10000rpm just before Scierie
> at Rouen on two different laps. On these laps he did a 1:57 and a 1:58,
> whereas before with everything normal rpm-wise his laptimes used to be in
> the 2:05 range.

> In these laps he also exits from Grsil about 8mph slower than I would and
> yet manages to reach 196mph (and still brake in time for Scierie), whereas
> I, although I should reach a higher speed than him (spoiler 60 here) only
> get to about 194 if I still want to brake in time for Scierie.

> Another guy in the replay does the same rpm but only reaches something in
> the 170mph range in terms of speed.

> Has anyone seen or heard similar reports - is it a new cheat or just
> warping?

It's not new per se, I've said this before Achim, I'll lap you at WG
anytime :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

by **Joachim Trens** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 07:47:26

...

Nice to see someone your age can still have wild dreams ;-)

Achim

by **Goy Larse** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 06:25:50

> ...
> > ...I'll lap you at WG anytime :-)

> Nice to see someone your age can still have wild dreams ;-)

I didn't say I was going to play fair did I :-), with that cheat you saw
online, assuming these guys do it the way I think they're doing it,
there's really no limit as to how fast you can go

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

by **Joachim Trens** » Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:49:11

Ahhh - got me :-)

Achim

...

by **Tom Pabs** » Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:37:09

I figured as much the night I was in an "arcade" pickup race at WG and 4 or
5 guys were doing 1:12's. I won't mention their names, because they are too
well known, but they were bragging about having "hybrid" race cars.

So, how do these "cheats" get around the checksum "cheat checker" in the
N2K2 servers?

TP

> > I have a client replay of a guy doing more than 10000rpm just before
Scierie
> > at Rouen on two different laps. On these laps he did a 1:57 and a 1:58,
> > whereas before with everything normal rpm-wise his laptimes used to be
in
> > the 2:05 range.

> > In these laps he also exits from Grsil about 8mph slower than I would
and
> > yet manages to reach 196mph (and still brake in time for Scierie),
whereas
> > I, although I should reach a higher speed than him (spoiler 60 here)
only
> > get to about 194 if I still want to brake in time for Scierie.

> > Another guy in the replay does the same rpm but only reaches something
in
> > the 170mph range in terms of speed.

> > Has anyone seen or heard similar reports - is it a new cheat or just
> > warping?

> It's not new per se, I've said this before Achim, I'll lap you at WG
> anytime :-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> http://www.theuspits.com

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--

by **Tim** » Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:30:44

Tom,

Could also be attributed to the fact Arcade Mode allows you to run on the track as if your on the Daytona Arcade game at your local video arcade.
Meaning, its almost impossible to wreck, ie faster lap times.

--
Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com

I figured as much the night I was in an "arcade" pickup race at WG and 4 or
5 guys were doing 1:12's. I won't mention their names, because they are too
well known, but they were bragging about having "hybrid" race cars.

So, how do these "cheats" get around the checksum "cheat checker" in the
N2K2 servers?

TP

> >
> > I have a client replay of a guy doing more than 10000rpm just before
Scierie
> > at Rouen on two different laps. On these laps he did a 1:57 and a 1:58,
> > whereas before with everything normal rpm-wise his laptimes used to be
in
> > the 2:05 range.
> >
> > In these laps he also exits from Grsil about 8mph slower than I would
and
> > yet manages to reach 196mph (and still brake in time for Scierie),
whereas
> > I, although I should reach a higher speed than him (spoiler 60 here)
only
> > get to about 194 if I still want to brake in time for Scierie.
> >
> > Another guy in the replay does the same rpm but only reaches something
in
> > the 170mph range in terms of speed.
> >
> > Has anyone seen or heard similar reports - is it a new cheat or just
> > warping?
>
> It's not new per se, I've said this before Achim, I'll lap you at WG
> anytime :-)
>
>
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
>
> http://www.theuspits.com
>
> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--

by **ymenar** » Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:27:58

> I figured as much the night I was in an "arcade" pickup race at WG and 4
or
> 5 guys were doing 1:12's. I won't mention their names, because they are
too
> well known, but they were bragging about having "hybrid" race cars.

Uuuuuuuh, Tom... you wrote your own answer... "ARCADE" as in "Arcade mode".
You know there is such mode since Nascar Racing 3 do you? A completely
different sim, with a completely different permissible physics model in its
oneself. ;)

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Gerald Moo** » Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:45:23

I wish somebody would let the cat out of the bag. Sadly, it has to
get worse before it can ever get better. Raise the visibility and
force Papy to deal with it. They won't do shit until it starts
affecting the bottom line.

Gerald

> I figured as much the night I was in an "arcade" pickup race at WG and 4 or
> 5 guys were doing 1:12's. I won't mention their names, because they are too
> well known, but they were bragging about having "hybrid" race cars.

> So, how do these "cheats" get around the checksum "cheat checker" in the
> N2K2 servers?

> TP

> > > I have a client replay of a guy doing more than 10000rpm just before
> Scierie
> > > at Rouen on two different laps. On these laps he did a 1:57 and a 1:58,
> > > whereas before with everything normal rpm-wise his laptimes used to be
> in
> > > the 2:05 range.

> > > In these laps he also exits from Grsil about 8mph slower than I would
> and
> > > yet manages to reach 196mph (and still brake in time for Scierie),
> whereas
> > > I, although I should reach a higher speed than him (spoiler 60 here)
> only
> > > get to about 194 if I still want to brake in time for Scierie.

> > > Another guy in the replay does the same rpm but only reaches something
> in
> > > the 170mph range in terms of speed.

> > > Has anyone seen or heard similar reports - is it a new cheat or just
> > > warping?

> > It's not new per se, I've said this before Achim, I'll lap you at WG
> > anytime :-)

> > Beers and cheers
> > (uncle) Goy

> > http://www.theuspits.com

> > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> > --Groucho Marx--

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