rec.autos.simulators

For once I'm going to be the "moderate guy here", I'll *** about US and
Irak some other time, ha ha ha.

Of course RASCAR "news" have a right to be there because it's RAScar league.
Of course "non RASCAR" people have a right not to be ***ed by a LOT of
posts which have NOTHING to do with simulation.

So here's the idea :

Send some UN troops in irak (no shit, that's not for this problem...)
RASCAR people (or admin or moderators or call them whatever you want) SHOULD
post here about IMPORTANT stuff such as
    Race schedule
    Tech problems (new ATI drivers and so on)

RASCAR people SHOULD NOT post here about UNIMPORTANT (to the others) stuff
such as
    Race results (frankly even in the end it was becoming tedious to get 25
post about the results of Eldred's last online GPL race from the sunday)
    Race comments, posts like "hey you txl bastard you pushed me in the last
corner..." frankly besides the guy that pushed and the guy that was pushed,
who gives a shit ? why not take this problem "privately" by email ?

Let's keep this in perspective, the occasional post about "how great was my
last lap when I passed 5 people..." is OK but do you realize that if RASCAR
people post all about their settings, race results, race comment and so on
then it means that EVERYBODY racing on VROC is entitled to explain to us the
race he had, *** about the occasional "backwards driver" and so on, it's
been done of course, but  nowhere near the proportions that RASCAR is going
right now.

Another advice to John Simmons, I don't think it is a fantastic idea to
adress people individually in the NG, if you need to contact Don Wilshe or
whoever then mail them directly, of course I assume that all the RASCARers
have provided a valid email adress when registering to the league so why do
it there ?.

Now you can all bash me as much as you want but I think that a little more
respect from everybody towards everybody shouldn't harm things here...

TXL who doesn't care about NASCAR (so does not plan to join RASCAR)...

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SPRES -  SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON
WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY

However, since the results of this dicussion will affect me as a
non-RASCARer as well, I'd like to say while I find John's sending individual
posts like 5 in a row about the same issue a bit boisterous, I at the same
time enjoy reading race reports or discussions about races and
settings/setups. Sometimes for technical reasons as the findings are
interesting for me as well, and sometimes for the purely social value of
reading about what happened to the people I'm in contact with all the time.

I have 'known' all the regulars here for several years now, and while my
interest in some is more profound than in others, I find all the stories
interesting and read them with pleasure when I have the time. And if they're
boring, I simply skip them. I wouldn't want to miss any of them, especially
not at the risk of missing something interesting as well.

As for John's spilling RASCAR postings all over the place instead of being a
bit more economical with his postings - I didn't mind his postings either,
since it is after all no problem to simply not read them when they're not
for you, which I have done with all the stuff addressed by name to other
individuals and most other postings labelled RASCAR with a topic I didn't
find interesting be. I just don't open messages that are clearly related to
the RASCAR league orginaisation, and luckily John's labelling his postings
clearly, so it's no prob at all to simply skip them.

I'd like to keep all the RASCAR postings in here. I'd rather have to skip a
couple of organisational bla-bla than lose some interesting findings or
reports, or even entertaining arguments about race situations ;-)

This is also no criticism of Schooner and others sharing his opinion, I just
think that maybe we should be relaxed about these issues and just skip stuff
we're not interested in, as else we might be losing interesting information
as well.

Achim

Personally I think that if we cut out everything in here that was
slightly OT, it would quickly become a very boring place, the variety of
the postings in here combined with the fact that we manage to stay
somewhat on the topic of racing, computers or preferably the combination
of the two is what makes this NG come alive

It's not boring and it's usually not a flame fest, on the whole I'd say
we're doing pretty good

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

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I'm not sure I understand why you can't just not read them?  I'm not
racing RASCAR this year at all, but I don't see how having a bunch of
posts about it is a bad thing.  It doesn't take any effort at all to
ignore threads that aren't of interest.

Jason

When you do something as specialised as RASCAR of course you use the NG to
give out GENERAL information but you create a DEDICATED board for your
INTERNAL stuff...and frankly the fact that John Doe has not yet given his
Sierra ID is of NO interest except to John Doe, so mail him and don't post
it here...no ?

I don't even mention the DL time because fortunately for me I am on DSL but
for people still on RTC it can be a "pain" to have to DL another 50k or so
worth of RASCAR messages....

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SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL
FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS
BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N
SPRES -  SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON
WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY

Dammit, people just aren't getting that John.

Larry

Just because some clever person has made a parralel between NASCAR and R.A.S
for RASCAR does not give RASCAR any rights more than the CROATIAN GPL F3
LEAGUE.

if it's like that then I'll trade mark immediatly al the names :

RASGTR (hard to say)
RASRL
RASGPL
and so on....

RASCAR does not "own" in any way this NG, and although RASCAR has the
complete right to inform the RAS public about their leagues and so on it
should not think that "I own the place, I do what I want and***you if
you don't agree", just like the now famous CGFL (yes, the non existant but
now famed CROATION GPL F3 LEAGUE), I hope it doesn't exist in real life
otherwise I'm in for some bashing, ha ha ha....

FFS.  It's just a league like any other.  Just because someone decided to
put RAS in the title doesn't make it any more relevant to this NEWSgroup
than any other league.

RASCAR is not a true league. It's a way for people from r.a.s.
to get together and race. Simple as that. We are using N2003 because it has
the best online code, but any sim that has good online code could be used in
the future.

There are no points, or a championship to be won. No prizes. No bragging
rights, sponsorship, etc.

R.a.s. is about auto simulators, and supposedly the people who frequent this
newsgroup are very serious and enthusiastic about auto sims. Online racing
is a key ingredient that most of us hope will be included in all auto sims
in the near future. It only makes sense then that we should get together and
race each other, and then discuss those races here at r.a.s.

David G Fisher

Ok, true, you said it right, but what about the post calling for "hey DGF, i
need your sierra ID !!"

So ***y what?  Let 'em post, I don't really care myself one way or
the other.

Waitaminit, I control the roster, and I didn't see anyone named John
Doe.  I guess I'm gonna have to leave a special post to have him tell
me what his Sierra ID is.

We're not really all that concerned with "the little people", or
"those less fortunate."  If it wasn't for the complains that everyone
is posting, there wouldn't BE 50K of RASCAR posts. Think about
that...

Let's try to maintain a little control Larry. You're not shoing any
respect for etiquette or other people's feelings...

You're a BAD RASCAR driver... BAD!

ok, 1 point for the humor note.

Jawohl mein Fuhrer !! maybe if people complained it's because there was a
reason to complain ?