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by **Steve Smit** » Fri, 09 May 2003 19:44:31

One of the ORIGINAL reasons they split was because CART h/w was too
'spensive. Now the IRL cars are so 'spensive they can't fill the grids.

field will include dangerous backmarkers.

> >Brian Oster <

> >>>It's an IRL game.

> >>>'nough said.

> >> Well, quite frankly what exactly does that mean? Will it be a good
> >> game or not?

> > IRL is an abomination. IRL a storebought childrens toy that maims
it's
> >drivers. IRL has to BUY it's stars from the real POINTY CAR league. IRL
> >turns only left, with ONLY USA drivers except it can't find enough dirt-
> >trackers who want to try pavement and ONLY races in the USA UNTIL Honda
> >foots the bill to race in Japan. IRL is one man saying play my way or
> >else. IRL is bad mojo. IRL is bad.
> > now with that introduction, what else can I tell you about a league
> >spawned in the depths of hell by the very child of satan himself?

> >Feel free to ask, I'll be my usual honest and forthright self. I
promise.
> >dave henrie
> The wierd thing about the IRL is that they are getting ready to run
> on the road, going international (did that one), and having
> non-americans in the cars.
> Basicaly the reasons Tony gave for splitting from CART are being
> destroyed hand over***by implimenting the same damn things.

by **Steve Smit** » Fri, 09 May 2003 19:45:55

Remember: it's not just an IRL game...it's a *Codemasters* IRL game....

> >> You guys think this one looks promising? I see it's multi-platform so
> >> hope it's not dumbed down or they have a *** option for us PC
> >> users. Screenshots look pretty good and I have my hopes up.
> >> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> >It's an IRL game.

> >'nough said.

> So? Some of us actually *like* the IRL, politics aside. Hopefully, I'll
be
> able to get it when it comes out...

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 09 May 2003 22:34:51

Yeah, I know. Two strikes already...<g>

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by **Brian Oste** » Sat, 10 May 2003 00:01:14

Yup, I don't follow the IRL that closely through out the year on TV,
but I haven't missed a race yet at Texas in 2 years. Really exciting
to watch in person. I bet if I had an IRL game that was somewhat
close to N2003 I would probably be a little more into the IRL.

Brian Oster

On Wed, 7 May 2003 21:38:03 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>> On Wed, 7 May 2003 18:10:21 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>> I am hoping it is, I loved ICR1 and ICR2 by Papy, and would very
>>> much like a good current pc title with good physics.

>> ICR2 was great. Of course, you also turned right on all but 3 tracks.

>> I dunno where the fun would be in an all-oval indycar game. I also
>> don't really see the fun in watching the IRL, so ymmv.

>> Jason

>But, I raced mainly on the ovals :).

>I wasn't as e***d about it until I started going to the IRL night races in
>Nashville, pretty exciting to watch I thought.

by **Brian Oste** » Sat, 10 May 2003 00:04:56

I was about to ask if that was a good or bad thing...

Brian Oster

by **J.D. Elli** » Sat, 10 May 2003 01:33:31

> Feel free to ask, I'll be my usual honest and forthright self. I promise.

C'mon Dave, venomous IRL-bashing is so 1998! ;)

Besides, when casting stones, just as many can be deflected over CART's
way too.

Admit it, you're just grumpy because there hasn't been a Viper presence
in the IRL since the GTS paced Indy in '96, while CART presumably still
utilizes their Viper Pace Car to waste track time in the schedule
scaring rich sponsor-types. :D

-jde

by **Olav Malmi** » Sat, 10 May 2003 02:08:27

> > Feel free to ask, I'll be my usual honest and forthright self. I promise.

> C'mon Dave, venomous IRL-bashing is so 1998! ;)

> Besides, when casting stones, just as many can be deflected over CART's
> way too.

Yeah, but for diffrent reasons. The IRL is a tool for power play while
CART is a victim of it. :)

It's only Fords now in CART.

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by **J.D. Elli** » Sat, 10 May 2003 02:17:37

>>Admit it, you're just grumpy because there hasn't been a Viper presence
>>in the IRL since the GTS paced Indy in '96, while CART presumably still
>>utilizes their Viper Pace Car to waste track time in the schedule
>>scaring rich sponsor-types. :D

> It's only Fords now in CART.

Not for what I was actually talking about... :)

http://www.cart.com/Paceteam/Cars.asp

The remnants of the old PPG Pace Car program, which wastes hours of
track time during the weekend schedule (enough to host another support
series).

-jde

by **Alex 'pez' Porazinsk** » Sat, 10 May 2003 03:50:34

at least brain in a jar have more credibility than the Wests...

pez

by **Race15** » Sat, 10 May 2003 05:19:23

<<So? Some of us actually *like* the IRL, politics aside. Hopefully, I'll be
able to get it when it comes out...

Eldred>>

I'm with you.

Mike

by **Eldre** » Sat, 10 May 2003 07:38:29

>>>Remember: it's not just an IRL game...it's a *Codemasters* IRL game....

>>Yeah, I know. Two strikes already...<g>

>>Eldred

>I was about to ask if that was a good or bad thing...

Well, the only other game I have by them is Toca2. I tried the demo first. On
*my* system, the damn thing was uncontrollable. Almost every time I turned a
sharp corner, the car would snap-spin. It totally turned me off to the
program. After some people here said the retail was much better, I bought
it(bargain bin by then). I was able to get a little better response in the
retail version, but I could never drive it confidently. And again, based on
Toca2 I can't trust the demo at ALL. So, I don't have much confidence in
Codemasters. I'd have rather seen *EA Sports* do it - I'd consider that a
better program.
We'll see...

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by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 10 May 2003 10:41:30

>>>Admit it, you're just grumpy because there hasn't been a Viper presence
>>>in the IRL since the GTS paced Indy in '96, while CART presumably still
>>>utilizes their Viper Pace Car to waste track time in the schedule
>>>scaring rich sponsor-types. :D

>> It's only Fords now in CART.

> Not for what I was actually talking about... :)

> http://www.cart.com/Paceteam/Cars.asp

> The remnants of the old PPG Pace Car program, which wastes hours of
> track time during the weekend schedule (enough to host another support
> series).

> -jde

I got to see those pace cars at Portland several years ago. Man are
those paintjobs expensive! It pained me to see the Viper leading the best
field the devil's money could buy. Anyone see the connection?
:)

thanks jd for always putting me in my place!

dave henrie

by **Olav Malmi** » Sat, 10 May 2003 15:04:08

> >>Admit it, you're just grumpy because there hasn't been a Viper presence
> >>in the IRL since the GTS paced Indy in '96, while CART presumably still
> >>utilizes their Viper Pace Car to waste track time in the schedule
> >>scaring rich sponsor-types. :D

> > It's only Fords now in CART.

> Not for what I was actually talking about... :)

> http://www.cart.com/Paceteam/Cars.asp

> The remnants of the old PPG Pace Car program, which wastes hours of
> track time during the weekend schedule (enough to host another support
> series).

Hmm. Well, I was trying to answer your question, but I think I was
wrong. It was my understanding that the pace car program would be
Fords only aswell. :)

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by **ymenar** » Sat, 10 May 2003 16:03:32

> Who cares what he thinks? He's a Quebecois who likes pastel colours.

Tehehe. Just look at those Half-Life 2 screenshots, they use lighting and
pastel colour palettes to diffuse the light. Just like in real-life. Just
like GPL :)

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by **Jay** » Sat, 10 May 2003 21:14:29

Jeez Dave,

Lighten up!!!
Most people were over the split 3-5 years ago already, yeesh!

And... As things stand now, the IRL is more CART-like than CART itself!

CART=Spec cars, Spec Engines, Spec Tires, Subsided teams, and ride-buying
foreign drivers (sort of what the IRL looked like 5 years ago)

And... Once the IRL adds a few road races (which even Roger Penske predicts
by 2004-2005) the IRL will have truly become what CART was.

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