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Rob.
Therefore it is very difficult to say which one is better; both are more
than sufficient for GPL (it uses 16 bit, no T&L), and in Nascar 4 (that
can run in both 16 and 32 bit) both have their own advantages. It would
be really great so see some head to head comparisons, esp. on processor
power limited machines where the T&L of the GeForce comes into play
more.
-Gregor
> Does anyone know how the Kyro II and Geforce2 MX compare? Would one card
> be better than the other for a low power (450mhz) PC? Is anyone playing N4
> or GPL with a Kyro II card?
> I would be very appreciative of any info concerning the Kyro II chip. TIA.
> Do N4 and GPL use 16 bit colour or 32 bit colour? I think the Kyro II chip
> performs well in 32 bit colour.
> --
> Rob.
Have a look at the "Kyro II with GPL & Vroc" article at
http://news.simracing.dk/anmeldelser/hardware/kyro2_gpl/kyro2_gpl.htm
Mikkel
The Geforce 2MX has a T&L gpu so it takes over some work from your slow cpu.
So that would be the best choice imho.
Sjoerd
About every single game on the market has 32 bit colour. The Kyro II does
32 bit colour without a single FPS drop, so it's really a great card for N4.
Especially if you had an older card that couldn't handle textures bigger
then 2562. For GPL there are some little issues that still don't detract
from racing it. I really suggest it for it's quality/price ratio.
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> The Kyro II card is a much superior card to an MX-type GeForce. It's
closer
> to a GTS then a MX in terms of power. Any current video cards will be
much
> better with a higher processor then just a 450mhz (I know my P3-500 really
> needs to be changed to a P3-1000 to get full power off my Kyro II).
> > I would be very appreciative of any info concerning the Kyro II chip.
> TIA.
> > Do N4 and GPL use 16 bit colour or 32 bit colour? I think the Kyro II
> chip
> > performs well in 32 bit colour.
> About every single game on the market has 32 bit colour. The Kyro II does
> 32 bit colour without a single FPS drop, so it's really a great card for
N4.
> Especially if you had an older card that couldn't handle textures bigger
> then 2562. For GPL there are some little issues that still don't detract
> from racing it. I really suggest it for it's quality/price ratio.
> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...
They are in the same price range as the mx cards. And they are faster. Yes
they do suck compared to a geforce 3. Everything sucks compared to a gf3.
> > > Does anyone know how the Kyro II and Geforce2 MX compare? Would one
> card
> > > be better than the other for a low power (450mhz) PC? Is anyone
playing
> N4
> > > or GPL with a Kyro II card?
> > The Kyro II card is a much superior card to an MX-type GeForce. It's
> closer
> > to a GTS then a MX in terms of power. Any current video cards will be
> much
> > better with a higher processor then just a 450mhz (I know my P3-500
really
> > needs to be changed to a P3-1000 to get full power off my Kyro II).
> > > I would be very appreciative of any info concerning the Kyro II
chip.
> > TIA.
> > > Do N4 and GPL use 16 bit colour or 32 bit colour? I think the Kyro
II
> > chip
> > > performs well in 32 bit colour.
> > About every single game on the market has 32 bit colour. The Kyro II
does
> > 32 bit colour without a single FPS drop, so it's really a great card for
> N4.
> > Especially if you had an older card that couldn't handle textures bigger
> > then 2562. For GPL there are some little issues that still don't
detract
> > from racing it. I really suggest it for it's quality/price ratio.
> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- May the Downforce be with you...
> > -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> > Corporation - helping America into the New World...
More importantly, how are the drivers? Doesn't matter how fast a card
is if it has crappy drivers. I've heard there are problems with the
KyroII drivers, but I don't have one so don't really know.
I am working on my Kyro II tweaks with the latest Vivid!XS drivers (7.114)
and unless I'm mistaken I have solved *all* the issues bar one. So please
wait a day or two for optimized settings to emerge from Denmark. :-) [Needs
a bit more testing online - and on someone else's hardware too.]
/Jens
> >They are in the same price range as the mx cards. And they are faster.
Yes
> >they do suck compared to a geforce 3. Everything sucks compared to a gf3.
> More importantly, how are the drivers? Doesn't matter how fast a card
> is if it has crappy drivers. I've heard there are problems with the
> KyroII drivers, but I don't have one so don't really know.
> >They are in the same price range as the mx cards. And they are faster.
Yes
> >they do suck compared to a geforce 3. Everything sucks compared to a gf3.
> More importantly, how are the drivers? Doesn't matter how fast a card
> is if it has crappy drivers. I've heard there are problems with the
> KyroII drivers, but I don't have one so don't really know.
http://www.soundcardcentral.com/reviews/video/Prophet4500/page1.htm
> >They are in the same price range as the mx cards. And they are faster.
Yes
> >they do suck compared to a geforce 3. Everything sucks compared to a gf3.
> More importantly, how are the drivers? Doesn't matter how fast a card
> is if it has crappy drivers. I've heard there are problems with the
> KyroII drivers, but I don't have one so don't really know.
Using 12.90 here with no problems that I have noticed. Anyway, Nvidia
drivers are *unified* so all those drivers are for *many* various
video cards, not just one.
>I am working on my Kyro II tweaks with the latest Vivid!XS drivers (7.114)
>and unless I'm mistaken I have solved *all* the issues bar one. So please
>wait a day or two for optimized settings to emerge from Denmark. :-) [Needs
>a bit more testing online - and on someone else's hardware too.]
>/Jens
However, there are quite a few tweaks/optimized settings available on the
net, and bundled with the drivers.
I'm using A.P. Charlesworth's excellent "Kyro Tools XP - Version 1.0.2.86 "
for tweaking. So many options, so little time.
http://pvr.gamestats.com/Dynamic/Standard.shtml?/kyrotools/kyrotools
Cheers,
Jens
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it.'
- S. Marsh
> >"Oh ye of little faith!"
> >I am working on my Kyro II tweaks with the latest Vivid!XS drivers
(7.114)
> >and unless I'm mistaken I have solved *all* the issues bar one. So please
> >wait a day or two for optimized settings to emerge from Denmark. :-)
[Needs
> >a bit more testing online - and on someone else's hardware too.]
> >/Jens
> Does that apply to all games or just GPL?
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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
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