rec.autos.simulators

by **Steve Rosk** » Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:17:43

Hi all:
If you were following my posts from the past few days, I'd get an hourglass
when trying to start N4, then nothing. No CD activity, ALT-CTR-DEL revealed
N4 was not running. Game did run fine with NO-CD exe. A couple people
suggested I get a new cheapo CD-ROM to replace mine, which was 5 yeasr old.

Good news, I took out the old CD-ROM, replaced it with the new 52X one and
the game fired up on the first try :) Didn't even have to reinstall the
game. Looks like the thought that my old CD-ROM couldn't read the copy
protection was correct. I dont't know how this relates to the people with
new DVD or read/write units, but a new cheapo $30 CD-ROM did the trick for
me. Sierra's tech support had suggested I return the game! Thanks to all
who offered support and the suggestion to try the new CD-ROM. I can't speak
for anyone else, but for me it's worth another $30 to be able to race N4
online. I'm not saying ist's right, but I've spent alot more than that on
hardware upgrades over the years to run games.

Eric Busch, you getting all this ;-)

I registered as "geminiracing" for online racing. Say hi as you pass me;)
See you at the track!

Steve

by **Steve Rosk** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:14:03

Yes you did, thanks rrevved:-)

by **Mr. Nospa** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 01:34:56

Yes but a person shouldn't have to go buy another cdrom drive to fix the
problems caused by Sierras game.

by **John Cauthe** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 01:54:34

Sierra should have packed a CD-ROM drive that would read the CD reliably
with the game! ;-) It's really a hit & miss situation... My 5 year old 6X
Goldstar CD-ROM drive reads the disk with no problem, but my 2 year old 32X
Mitsumi doesn't. Perhaps Sierra should compile a list of compatible CD-ROM
drives and list them in the "Minimim Hardware" section on the box label!

John Cauthen
Managing Editor
Digital Sportspage (http://www.digitalsports.com)

by **Mike Grand** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:40:04

Glad you took the time to try and it worked.

by **Jag** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:36:17

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:17:43 -0500, "Steve Rosko"

Which brand/model of cdrom drive did you buy? Might help other people
in the same boat.
--
Jagg

by **Uncle Feste** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 05:16:05

> Hi all:
> If you were following my posts from the past few days, I'd get an hourglass
> when trying to start N4, then nothing. No CD activity, ALT-CTR-DEL revealed
> N4 was not running. Game did run fine with NO-CD exe. A couple people
> suggested I get a new cheapo CD-ROM to replace mine, which was 5 yeasr old.

> Good news, I took out the old CD-ROM, replaced it with the new 52X one and
> the game fired up on the first try :) Didn't even have to reinstall the
> game. Looks like the thought that my old CD-ROM couldn't read the copy
> protection was correct. I dont't know how this relates to the people with
> new DVD or read/write units, but a new cheapo $30 CD-ROM did the trick for
> me. Sierra's tech support had suggested I return the game! Thanks to all
> who offered support and the suggestion to try the new CD-ROM. I can't speak
> for anyone else, but for me it's worth another $30 to be able to race N4
> online. I'm not saying ist's right, but I've spent alot more than that on
> hardware upgrades over the years to run games.

> Eric Busch, you getting all this ;-)

> I registered as "geminiracing" for online racing. Say hi as you pass me;)
> See you at the track!

> Steve

Congrats!! Great news for sure, have fun on the track.

--

Fester

by **Vintoo** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 06:58:43

Maybe not but then again I bought a new processor, more memory and a new
video card just to run GPL so should sierra include all this with all future
games? Oh, and I bought a bigger monitor so I could see the track better. If
you tally it all up, GPL cost me about $500.

Well worth it in my opinion! :)

Vintook

P.S. The wife wasn't very thrilled about it but then again she doesn't drive
GPL or N4 so she just doesn't understand. :)

> Yes but a person shouldn't have to go buy another cdrom drive to fix the
> problems caused by Sierras game.

> > Hi all:
> > If you were following my posts from the past few days, I'd get an
> hourglass
> > when trying to start N4, then nothing. No CD activity, ALT-CTR-DEL
> revealed
> > N4 was not running. Game did run fine with NO-CD exe. A couple people
> > suggested I get a new cheapo CD-ROM to replace mine, which was 5 yeasr
> old.

> > Good news, I took out the old CD-ROM, replaced it with the new 52X one
and
> > the game fired up on the first try :) Didn't even have to reinstall the
> > game. Looks like the thought that my old CD-ROM couldn't read the copy
> > protection was correct. I dont't know how this relates to the people
with
> > new DVD or read/write units, but a new cheapo $30 CD-ROM did the trick
for
> > me. Sierra's tech support had suggested I return the game! Thanks to
all
> > who offered support and the suggestion to try the new CD-ROM. I can't
> speak
> > for anyone else, but for me it's worth another $30 to be able to race N4
> > online. I'm not saying ist's right, but I've spent alot more than that
on
> > hardware upgrades over the years to run games.

> > Eric Busch, you getting all this ;-)

> > I registered as "geminiracing" for online racing. Say hi as you pass
me;)
> > See you at the track!

> > Steve

by **Don Burnett** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:17:46

Congratulations Steve, very glad you didn't give up on it and saw there was
a way to make it work for you - plus - any future games you buy utilizing
that copy protection will now probably be ok as well.
Enjoy it, it's a blast!!

--
Don Burnette

by **ArcLigh** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:51:03

Some of the guys running B-17-2 had the samr prob' with CD roms.

> Yes but a person shouldn't have to go buy another cdrom drive to fix the
> problems caused by Sierras game.

> > Hi all:
> > If you were following my posts from the past few days, I'd get an
> hourglass
> > when trying to start N4, then nothing. No CD activity, ALT-CTR-DEL
> revealed
> > N4 was not running. Game did run fine with NO-CD exe. A couple people
> > suggested I get a new cheapo CD-ROM to replace mine, which was 5 yeasr
> old.

> > Good news, I took out the old CD-ROM, replaced it with the new 52X one
and
> > the game fired up on the first try :) Didn't even have to reinstall the
> > game. Looks like the thought that my old CD-ROM couldn't read the copy
> > protection was correct. I dont't know how this relates to the people
with
> > new DVD or read/write units, but a new cheapo $30 CD-ROM did the trick
for
> > me. Sierra's tech support had suggested I return the game! Thanks to
all
> > who offered support and the suggestion to try the new CD-ROM. I can't
> speak
> > for anyone else, but for me it's worth another $30 to be able to race N4
> > online. I'm not saying ist's right, but I've spent alot more than that
on
> > hardware upgrades over the years to run games.

> > Eric Busch, you getting all this ;-)

> > I registered as "geminiracing" for online racing. Say hi as you pass
me;)
> > See you at the track!

> > Steve

by **Marc Collin** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:04:55

For about three weeks until the next greatest copy protection scheme is
introduced....

Marc.

> Congratulations Steve, very glad you didn't give up on it and saw there
was
> a way to make it work for you - plus - any future games you buy utilizing
> that copy protection will now probably be ok as well.
> Enjoy it, it's a blast!!

> --
> Don Burnette

> > Hi all:
> > If you were following my posts from the past few days, I'd get an
> hourglass
> > when trying to start N4, then nothing. No CD activity, ALT-CTR-DEL
> revealed
> > N4 was not running. Game did run fine with NO-CD exe. A couple people
> > suggested I get a new cheapo CD-ROM to replace mine, which was 5 yeasr
> old.

> > Good news, I took out the old CD-ROM, replaced it with the new 52X one
and
> > the game fired up on the first try :) Didn't even have to reinstall the
> > game. Looks like the thought that my old CD-ROM couldn't read the copy
> > protection was correct. I dont't know how this relates to the people
with
> > new DVD or read/write units, but a new cheapo $30 CD-ROM did the trick
for
> > me. Sierra's tech support had suggested I return the game! Thanks to
all
> > who offered support and the suggestion to try the new CD-ROM. I can't
> speak
> > for anyone else, but for me it's worth another $30 to be able to race N4
> > online. I'm not saying ist's right, but I've spent alot more than that
on
> > hardware upgrades over the years to run games.

> > Eric Busch, you getting all this ;-)

> > I registered as "geminiracing" for online racing. Say hi as you pass
me;)
> > See you at the track!

> > Steve

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:19:30

That would be 2 and half weeks after the copy protection was cracked
right?
dave henrie

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:17:52

> >Yes but a person shouldn't have to go buy another cdrom drive to fix the
> >problems caused by Sierras game.

> I didn't.

HP 9150 CD RW worked just fine...still does....I have a no cd exe but
I'm kinda chicken to try it out.. :)
dave henrie

by **Steve Rosk** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:07:47

I got the cheapest one they had at Best Buy. the box said "Pine
Technologies, Inc." and it was 52X.

> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:17:43 -0500, "Steve Rosko"

> Which brand/model of cdrom drive did you buy? Might help other people
> in the same boat.
> --
> Jagg

by **Alan Bernard** » Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:26:54

> >Yes but a person shouldn't have to go buy another cdrom drive to fix the
> >problems caused by Sierras game.

> I didn't.

No? You didn't because you didn't have the problem. It's funny how those
without the CD read problem lay no blame on Sierra but those with the
problem do.

If the problem suddenly appeared to someone who never had the problem
before, I'll guarantee he would not be happy.

To argue that this CD read problem is anything but the fault of Sierra is
ludicrous.

But take this advice. If you need a new wheel, get a USB-deviced one. I
picked up the NPD2. Now I can disable my joy port (being old, it's not that
difficult to do that) and then run N4 if I want to log into the WON servers.

Alanb

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