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You offered the source, nobody replied, case closed.
Next!
:)
Andre
(what kind of secret code is this?)
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You offered the source, nobody replied, case closed.
Next!
:)
Andre
(what kind of secret code is this?)
I only participate in GPLRank as an F1 driver, but I find the FD, and
to a lesser extent the FG cars, entertaining as hell to race. And I
certainly wouldn't consider the F2 and F3 cars to be any cakewalk to
drive, either. The reduced grip makes them damned difficult to control
on the limit. Maybe even harder to balance mid-corner than an F1 car.
-Dirt-
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> What gplrank and its PR guys haven't gotten into their heads yet is that
> there is a certain inferiority complex associated with driving F2/F3, and
> just about everything I've heard from gplrank seems designed to exacerbate
> this complex. There's never been an admission that "yes, gplrank screwed
up
> in the original design by not separating F1/F2/F3 in the first place; yes,
> F2/F3 are just as valid as F1 and they should and will be supported
fully."
> Instead, the standard response to F2/F3 complaints is how on the one hand,
> Uwe is an overworked guy doing this for the love of the GPL community, and
> on the other hand that there aren't enough F2/F3 drivers participating to
> bother with. The F2/F3 guys respond that gplrank obviously considers them
> second-class citizens by not supporting them directly, and that's why they
> don't participate. You can picture the two sides virtually flipping each
> other off over the internet. Stupid? Petty? Yep.
> This F1-2/F1-3 vs. FD/FG naming snafu is a perfect example of the
> thoughtless disregard of gplrank for F2/F3 feelings. What it comes across
> as is "ok, let's throw these pesky F2/F3 guys a bone by putting them on a
> sub-menu, while making it clear that FD/FG is an inferior F1 variant."
> Consider these points:
> 1) Everyone who's bothered to read this far knows full well that RA spent
> time promoting the FD/FG naming. Was he doing some virtual territorial
> grabbing for his league? Sure. Was this behavior perfectly harmless?
Yep.
> There is nothing inherently better about F1-2/F1-3 nomenclature over
FD/FG,
> so why not humor someone who everybody knows and who has put alot of time
> into supporting the GPL community. Beats me why not.
> 2) Those who race FD/FG on vroc use the FD/FG nomenclature almost
> exclusively in their player names, as well as in the server descriptions
for
> this type of racing, and have for some time. But I guess Uwe never races
> FD/FG, so he wouldn't know this, would he?
> 3) FD/FG has been incorporated into the user interface for GEM itself!
Oh,
> but Uwe has never actually ran the engine swapper, so he wouldn't be aware
> of this, would he? Oops.
> 4) When these points were made to a gplrank PR guy in the vroc-F2 forum,
> his response was like a lawyer defending a guilty client in court. Don't
> admit that gplrank screwed up (even completely without intention), defend!
> Defend at all costs!
> Sigh. What gplrank needs to get into its corporate mentality is that
there
> are no bastions to defend. No usurpers storming the gates. No territory
to
> stake out. Its a simple service for the GPL community. Hello? gplrank?
> F2/F3 drivers are the GPL community. Support them. Don't defend gplrank.
> Fix it. Please.
> rms
They are initials for some new gpl classes that are now available via
the engine swapper utility. At first the fear was putting odd
engine/chassis
combos in F1. But some online racers found putting the F2 engine in a F1
chassis makes for a very racey and stable car. Perhaps these guys had
already
had some inferiority complex about running F2 classes anyway, but they
decided to 'create' some odd names for the new hybrids. Instead of F1-2
(f1 chassis, F2 engine) or F1-3(F1 chassis, F3 engine) they came up with
FD and FG. I know if I spent 5 minutes, I could figure out which is which,
but I haven't so I don't know which stands for each new class.
These guys are happy with the names, fine. But they seemed insulted when
the whole GPL family didn't immeadiately accept their naming conventions.
hence the threads like this one.
dave henrie
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Don McCorkle
Get you facts right before you comment...
I am not getting back into this argument, and i won't be replying to
this thread again, but before you sprout dribble, check where the names
"FG" & "FD" came from and why they were called that...
Cheers,
Ron