rec.autos.simulators

Well now, we were talking about hotlaps, not racing.  That's what GPLRank is
all about.  I just think it's patently absurd to try to suggest that F2 is
on par with F1 in any way as far as hotlapping goes.  The whole point of F2
and the other formulas is that they're supposed to be easier and slower than
F1.  If someone wants to treat all the formulae equally, then so much the
better.  My point is that they shouldn't feel obligated to do so.

I guess Roger hit the nail on the head when he mentioned the "inferiority
complex", because you appear to be taking this way too personally.  I don't
think F2 drivers are inferior, I just found it amusing that someone could be
outraged by the formula being portrayed as "inferior".

The only "numbers" guys are the F1 drivers and overly anal-retentive
programmers..

AFAIK, the leagues have universally adopted the FD/FG class monikers. There
were about three days when people were saying  "what the hell does FD
mean?". Once that was over and we all realized that F1-3 and F1-2 was too
damned hard to type, we just said***it.

So there you have it. It's official.

Regards,
Gordon

thats what the latest poll is for. Anyone interested in setting
up a separate FD/FG whatever rank can do so. If he/she wants
the source to gplrank, just contact me, and Ill be happy to
send it over. Actually its a bit deeper than "remembering
two or three damn class names" as someone so eloquently stated.

BTW, that "corporate heads" bit really hurt. Thank you.

Cheers,

Uwe

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Uwe,

keep up your good work with GPLRANK! The existing system with F1, F2, F3
is already wonderful!

Arto

Exactly, GPLRank was a simple, cool idea that Don had and Uwe made
into a reality. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobody screwed up any
design, F2 and F3 weren't even considered, they weren't (aren't? I
can't answer that one) within the scope of the project.  If people
can't appreciate GPLRank for what it is then they simply shouldn't
participate.

Uwe, Don and others have made a great contribution to the community
while asking nothing in return. Anyone that is unappreciative of their
effort or who feels it necessary to attack them or GPLRank in any way
is a***sucker.

Hi,

I never said anything about "corporate heads", not to you or anyone
else, ever..
If you are going to quote sayings, then quote the right guy as saying
it.

FWIW, i can appreciate the work you have put into GPLrank, but the  FD
& FG drivers were never consulted on what we would like to call our
names in GPLRank, and when we tried to ask your PR rep who posted in
the VROCf2 club why we couldn't call our drivers what we had been
calling them, he simply stated that you were God, and the rest of us
were just acoloytes and we had no say..
I know you didn't say that Uwe, but the message was clear enough.

I also agree with the poster under this one, that F1, F2 & F3 was fine,
and shouldn't be altered, but the poster obviously doesn't know the
full story on the FD & FG classes.

Cheers,
Ron

Spoken like a true juvenile internet hero, who can hide behind his
screen.
If you called me that word to my face, you would never walk away, in
fact you wouldn't be able to crawl away..

Also i am sure Uwe and Don would not like their names linked to a foul
mouth like yours..

Ron.

Please quote me in context.

Ron Ayton: "There is no feasible reason at all why we cannot retain our
standardized naming protocol on GPLrank, other than the fact that
GPLrank does not wish us to."

Jens Kruuse: "That is an extremely powerful fact, wouldn't you say?
Sure, I can understand your frustration but just like you (plural)
pushed very hard for the use of the non-descriptive names, FD & FG,
others may use what they consider the best names on their webpage. (In
GPLRank terms Uwe is God. we are lowly acolytes)."

See how I refer to Uwe in connection to his webpage? Wouldn't you say he
is master of his own page? What slipped from the message was a reference
to GPLRank admins, which I deleted for other reasons, not realizing that
I had refered to us (the admins!) as acolytes elsewhere.

And from the same message:
Jens Kruuse: "You may use whatever designations you choose in your
league, we will both use fd/fg in vroc-f2 races, and GPLRank will only
accept f1-2/f1-3. Don't forget: GPLRank is a free service. If Uwe
decided to call it quits tomorrow, he could. (And he would have to look
over his shoulder for the next few years.  :-) )

Ron, get a grip. You were reading way too much into that single remark.

Jens, who has a far better understanding of logic than some people think...

Hi Jens,

I didn't even intend replying to anymore posts in regards to this
topic, and i wouldn't have, if i hadn't of been accused of saying
something i didn't say.
We all have our own views, and we can all believe what we like, and
though i am sorry it has got to this stage, the reasons and actions
behind the "numbers" and "letters" designations could have been avoided
if the groups concerned were given a voice in their own destiny,
instead of being dictated to.

Cheers,
Ron

I'm getting a little fed up with this sort of mamby-pamby retoric.  If you
can't say how you really feel, don't bother posting.  :-)  Incidentally, I
agree.

Don McCorkle

Dear***sucker,

You and a couple of others in here are the ones that went over the
line when you chose to make a personal attack. I'm just responding to
you in a manner that your type will understand.

And sweetheart, don't give me any of that tough girl shit. If you are
ever in CA and feel the need just send me an email.

Hi Ron,

A very nice post expressing good sentiments. We all have a tendency to
forget "the human" behind the postings when we feel slighted or insulted
or ... The list goes on.

http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule1.html

Please read. It's quite good and thought-provoking.

Cheers & best wishes,
Jens

Count on it .

 some  pathetic "hiding behind his monitor" gutter trash.

Hi Jens,

That article is so true, and something we all need to think about at
times..
It is so hard to express opinions, and translate the "personal" touch
in face expressions and voice inflictions over usernet, and something
we all need to remember is that quite often, the message behind our
words is not always taken as the sender meant it to be taken..
We are all guilty of that, everyone of us...
Catch up with you one day in a pub somewhere and we will have a drink
to old times.. :)

Cheers,
Ron

Sorry for mis-quoting you, I was not even referring to your post,
just followed up on int in the thread.

"What gplrank needs to get into its corporate mentality is that
there are no bastions to defend."

Thats the part that really pissed me off, as Im as far from a
corporate head as it gets. My offer to send out the source still
stands; I have yet to receive a reply.

Cheers,

Uwe

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