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Disk Imaging Software

Andrew MacPhers

Disk Imaging Software

by Andrew MacPhers » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:28:00


> As long as the new HD is at least as large as the original, this
> should not be an issue.

I agree. I speak only from experience.

Andrew McP

Steve Simpso

Disk Imaging Software

by Steve Simpso » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:52:40

It's not -unreliable- but it's not bulletproof either.

Pete

Disk Imaging Software

by Pete » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:34:41

In article



> > However, when I came to restore said image when I
> > changed my HD

> I find Trueimage is as fallible as the rest if restoring an old setup to
> a new hard disk. The "shape" of the HD needs to match the shape of the
> old one in order for XP to work properly from the start. You'd think by
> now they'd have got round that problem. Still, at least the old backup
> can be mounted later on and critical files copied over.

Well, to be on the safe side I'm only going to image one O/S partition
whilst using the other O/S partition.  Even if it was a one off problem
before I'm not prepared to take the chance.  Luckily for me there wasn't
much missing between the 2 XP backups program and data wise.

Actually, when I think back, perhaps I'm being unfair to True Image.  
The HD had started to develop errors and that's why I replaced it and,
although no actually problems occurred whilst using the XP O/S, the data
partition on the same HD also turned out to be a wee bit shagged in
certain parts with some folders completely irretrievable.

I may try making 2 backups of XP to test things out.  One from the other
O/S and one from within XP itself.  That way, if I try to restore from
the XP running image and it fails I still have the image that was
created outside of XP and that will be an almost exact replica.  Those
HD image backups have always restored flawlessly.

--
Pete Ives
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Daru

Disk Imaging Software

by Daru » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:37:15

This is getting more difficult. With all these negative experience
stories (and a few good ones, I guess) I don't know what to do. I'm not
in a rush, as I will probably hold off until the next official rFactor
patch is released and then do the total reinstall, but I don't want to
buy any software and then have major problems down the road. I suppose
it's like any issue of Windows, it's the latest and greatest, but still
contains major flaws that will need to be addressed.

I am not super concerned with data backup per se, it's a ***
computer, so important docs, apps and etc. are not a real issue. I want
convenience and ease of use along with some semblance of reliability. I
simply want to be able to wake up one day and say, "let's roll out a
spring fresh copy of my computer" and have it be like the day I first
installed everything.

I do appeciate all the input and it is making me think a bit more about
which to go.

Larr

Disk Imaging Software

by Larr » Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:39:12

Once a month I let TrueImage re-image the machine to it's SecureZone.  Of
course I have base and full images stored on the server as well.

I can recover from a cat-tastrophe in 20 min.

-Larry


B Wegne

Disk Imaging Software

by B Wegne » Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:41:00

I've done a complete 'hot image' and had to restore it with Ghost 10 - zero problems.

Wag


  >> Is there a recommendation for the software to do this? Norton Ghost
  >> 10 and True Image 9.0 seem to the be most frequently mentioned
  >> titles. Any upside/downside to these programs that anyone wants to
  >> comment on?
  >
  > Ghost 2003 was the last reliable version of Ghost.  The newer ones
  > are just rebadged Powerquest Driveimage which runs in Windows and
  > hence aren't anywhere near as reliable.

  I have not had any issues using Drive Image 7, and I have used it  to
  restore a working image.
  Perhaps I just got lucky...

  --
  Don Burnette

Daru

Disk Imaging Software

by Daru » Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:49:02

Larry:

What is "SecureZone?

What do you mean by "base" and "Full images"? I am guessing "Base" is
the original install and the "full" are the incremental images?

I like the recover time....

Mitc

Disk Imaging Software

by Mitc » Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:12:25

Most software works as advertised.  90% plus of the service calls Ive done over the last 15+ years are "user errors/issues" not the software's fault.  Some people "think" they are smarter than they are and that usually spells more trouble than the un-assuming fellow that acually RTFM ;)

Ive used Ghost and Drive image for years but I prefer Drive Image.  Each has changed drastically over the years as corporate ownership changes and technology advances move ever forward.

True Image sounds interesting though and I may give it a shot sometime soon as well..

Mitch

  I've done a complete 'hot image' and had to restore it with Ghost 10 - zero problems.

  Wag

Larr

Disk Imaging Software

by Larr » Thu, 20 Apr 2006 04:43:24

With Acronis TrueImage you have an option of setting aside a chunk of hard
drive space as a hidden partition to store images.

When you boot your system, you hit F11 and it brings up a Linux (I believe)
based core-version of TrueImage, and you have the option of Imaging,
restoring, etc... without ever having to boot to windows, use a CD or a
floppy.

You can write this image to the SecureZone, another local drive, a network
drive, etc...

TrueImages support of Networks is the best I've seen.  It actuall WORKS!

When I set up a computer I do the following:

1.  Install the OS, all updates and drivers for base hardware until I have a
green-board in the device manager.
2.  At this point I image the machine.  This is my base image.
3.  Then I load up all the apps, utilities, games, etc...
4.  Then I image the machine.  This is the full image.

My monthly running images go to the SecureZone, but every other month I send
it to the server instead in case of a hard drive failure, which would also
take out the SecureZone obviously.

I store no data on my C drive.  It's all stored on a separate D drive.  This
way I can re-image without fear of data lost.  There are one or two programs
that stupidly save their data in the program folder, but nothing I can't
live without as I manually back those up at a regular interval.  The D drive
is backed up to my RAID-5 file server as needed, and important documents are
burned to DVD as needed for extra security.

-Larry


Daru

Disk Imaging Software

by Daru » Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:17:58

Can the SecureZone be another physical hard drive? Or does it have to
be on the same drive as the program itself?

I'd like to do exactly as you laid out in points 1-4, but store the
images on a 2nd HDD in my box, for security. I may also burn a DVD
image (this is possible also, right?) as EXTRA, EXTRA security. I would
then do monthly backups as normal.

Thanks so much for the replies, the info is quite valuable.

Larr

Disk Imaging Software

by Larr » Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:56:56

You know, I'm not sure :)

-Larry


PlowBo

Disk Imaging Software

by PlowBo » Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:08:35

which version you got larry, looks like there's home, workstation, and the
500 & 1000 buck server/enterprise versions???

Larry enlightened us with:

> You know, I'm not sure :)

> -Larry



>> Can the SecureZone be another physical hard drive? Or does it have to
>> be on the same drive as the program itself?

>> I'd like to do exactly as you laid out in points 1-4, but store the
>> images on a 2nd HDD in my box, for security. I may also burn a DVD
>> image (this is possible also, right?) as EXTRA, EXTRA security. I
>> would then do monthly backups as normal.

>> Thanks so much for the replies, the info is quite valuable.

Larr

Disk Imaging Software

by Larr » Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:52:14

I use the home version.

The other versions are for corporate environments where images may need to
be pushed to workstations.

-Larry


> which version you got larry, looks like there's home, workstation, and the
> 500 & 1000 buck server/enterprise versions???

> Larry enlightened us with:
>> You know, I'm not sure :)

>> -Larry



>>> Can the SecureZone be another physical hard drive? Or does it have to
>>> be on the same drive as the program itself?

>>> I'd like to do exactly as you laid out in points 1-4, but store the
>>> images on a 2nd HDD in my box, for security. I may also burn a DVD
>>> image (this is possible also, right?) as EXTRA, EXTRA security. I
>>> would then do monthly backups as normal.

>>> Thanks so much for the replies, the info is quite valuable.

Jeff Rei

Disk Imaging Software

by Jeff Rei » Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:34:12

A second hard drive is a lot cheaper than the software
packages, and if you create multiple partitions, you
can just back up partitions.

Installing a 2nd copy of your OS on another partition
will allow you to back up your primary OS partition.

Larr

Disk Imaging Software

by Larr » Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:23:21

You can't drag-copy an operating system like Windows :)

TrueImage is like $49.

-Larry



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