rec.autos.simulators

by **Daru** » Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:41:41

As I often install and uninstall games, apps, drivers, etc., my
computers gets a bit sloppy in performance. I am anticipating a full
format and reinstall of XP, plus all my racing sims, sometime in the
coming weeks.

My goal this time is to format, then reinstall everything to a "basic"
level (NR2003 plus 1.1 patch, plus BGN, CTS, PTA, IROC, plus the JJ
Johnston/Superspeedway.net updates, as an example) and then do a hard
drive image or clone which will allow me to more easily "fall back" to
the pristine condition that I have right after the format.

Is there a recommendation for the software to do this? Norton Ghost 10
and True Image 9.0 seem to the be most frequently mentioned titles. Any
upside/downside to these programs that anyone wants to comment on?

Thanks.

by **Don Burnett** » Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:04:33

> As I often install and uninstall games, apps, drivers, etc., my
> computers gets a bit sloppy in performance. I am anticipating a full
> format and reinstall of XP, plus all my racing sims, sometime in the
> coming weeks.

> My goal this time is to format, then reinstall everything to a "basic"
> level (NR2003 plus 1.1 patch, plus BGN, CTS, PTA, IROC, plus the JJ
> Johnston/Superspeedway.net updates, as an example) and then do a hard
> drive image or clone which will allow me to more easily "fall back" to
> the pristine condition that I have right after the format.

> Is there a recommendation for the software to do this? Norton Ghost 10
> and True Image 9.0 seem to the be most frequently mentioned titles.
> Any upside/downside to these programs that anyone wants to comment on?

> Thanks.

I have used Powerquest's Drive Image 7 for some time, with great success. I
image to an external usb2.0 hard drive.
PQ has since been bought out, by Norton I believe.

I have heard good things about both programs you mention, and you would
probably be satisfied with either one. Both will allow you to image, both
will also allow you to restore either individual files and folders or the
complete image.
I personally don't care for Norton's software anymore, for things such as
anti-virus or system cleaners, but I believe Ghost by itself is a good
program.

I have heard very good things about the True Image software. If I were
purchasing a disc imaging program today, I believe that is the one I would
go with.

--
Don Burnette

by **B Wegne** » Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:09:44

I use Ghost 10 and am extremely pleased in that it now allows scheduled unattended image backups, hot images (while OS is running), as well as a feature a lot of backup software includes - that being incremental images!!! I have also heard good things about TrueImage as well.

Wag

I have used Powerquest's Drive Image 7 for some time, with great success. I
image to an external usb2.0 hard drive.
PQ has since been bought out, by Norton I believe.

I have heard good things about both programs you mention, and you would
probably be satisfied with either one. Both will allow you to image, both
will also allow you to restore either individual files and folders or the
complete image.
I personally don't care for Norton's software anymore, for things such as
anti-virus or system cleaners, but I believe Ghost by itself is a good
program.

I have heard very good things about the True Image software. If I were
purchasing a disc imaging program today, I believe that is the one I would
go with.

--
Don Burnette

by **Scott B. Huste** » Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:47:44

> As I often install and uninstall games, apps, drivers, etc., my
> computers gets a bit sloppy in performance. I am anticipating a full
> format and reinstall of XP, plus all my racing sims, sometime in the
> coming weeks.

> My goal this time is to format, then reinstall everything to a "basic"
> level (NR2003 plus 1.1 patch, plus BGN, CTS, PTA, IROC, plus the JJ
> Johnston/Superspeedway.net updates, as an example) and then do a hard
> drive image or clone which will allow me to more easily "fall back" to
> the pristine condition that I have right after the format.

> Is there a recommendation for the software to do this? Norton Ghost 10
> and True Image 9.0 seem to the be most frequently mentioned titles. Any
> upside/downside to these programs that anyone wants to comment on?

> Thanks.

I use a combination of backup-up solutions. I use Genie Soft Backup-Up
Manager Pro to run regular backup routines, and I have Acronis True
Image 8.0 to make images and it works great.

Scott

--
Scott B. Husted
http://www.Husted.cc

by **lonely_fairy_qu..** » Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:40:41

Hi,

I'm using Drive Backup (though it wasn't mentioned)
http://www.drive-backup.com/home/personal/
I was attracted by nice price and good functionality, and now it works
for me well:) I was very pleased with support, their nice guys helped
me a lot.

Ah, forgot to menton - I was very impressed by Drive Backup's bootable
CD. You can use it to restore your machine in case of Windows' death.
Contrary to my expectations, this CD has intuitive interface and is
easy to use.

Hope my information can help you.

Cheers,
Queen.

by **Daru** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:07:22

Thanks! Hadn't heard of the product beforee. Seems quite good.
Something more to consider.

by **Larr** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:34:33

I used to use DriveImage, but it went into the crapper after version 2002.
Then symantec bought PowerQuest and as far as I know, it was a buy & Shelve
purchase because I've not seen any updates in a few years.

I now use Acronis TrueImage.

Not a big fan of Ghost.

-Larry

by **Larr** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:36:37

DriveImage 7 isn't true imaging software any more. The last version that
was pure, true imaging software was V2002, which was the last version prior
to version 7.

Version 7 is more backup management software. It images, but not in the
sense that V2002 did. Luckily V7 comes with V2002 in the box for this
purpose.

Also be aware, Version 7 has a heavy-handed Product Activation system built
into it.

-Larry

>> As I often install and uninstall games, apps, drivers, etc., my
>> computers gets a bit sloppy in performance. I am anticipating a full
>> format and reinstall of XP, plus all my racing sims, sometime in the
>> coming weeks.

>> My goal this time is to format, then reinstall everything to a "basic"
>> level (NR2003 plus 1.1 patch, plus BGN, CTS, PTA, IROC, plus the JJ
>> Johnston/Superspeedway.net updates, as an example) and then do a hard
>> drive image or clone which will allow me to more easily "fall back" to
>> the pristine condition that I have right after the format.

>> Is there a recommendation for the software to do this? Norton Ghost 10
>> and True Image 9.0 seem to the be most frequently mentioned titles.
>> Any upside/downside to these programs that anyone wants to comment on?

>> Thanks.

> I have used Powerquest's Drive Image 7 for some time, with great success.
> I image to an external usb2.0 hard drive.
> PQ has since been bought out, by Norton I believe.

> I have heard good things about both programs you mention, and you would
> probably be satisfied with either one. Both will allow you to image, both
> will also allow you to restore either individual files and folders or the
> complete image.
> I personally don't care for Norton's software anymore, for things such as
> anti-virus or system cleaners, but I believe Ghost by itself is a good
> program.

> I have heard very good things about the True Image software. If I were
> purchasing a disc imaging program today, I believe that is the one I would
> go with.

> --
> Don Burnette

by **Pete** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:09:26

I know people are mentioning good things about True Image, but I
wondered if anyone here had actually managed to re-install from an image
that was created of an O/S that was running at the time. What I mean
is, I have a copy of True Image 8.0 and have a dual boot system which
has meant that, prior to version 8 I had always created the image of one
O/S whilst running from the other one because the imaging software just
wouldn't let me do it any other way.

So V8 doesn't have this problem, and so I tried creating an image of XP
whilst running XP and everything went ok. However, when I came to
restore said image when I changed my HD it installed but failed to run,
stopping at the XP Welcome screen and, despite even trying a repair
install over the top, eventually I had to restore from one of my
previous backups that was created through the old method.

So, anyone actually managed to do this without issue using any Version
of True Image?

--
Pete Ives
Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:07:00

> However, when I came to restore said image when I
> changed my HD

I find Trueimage is as fallible as the rest if restoring an old setup to
a new hard disk. The "shape" of the HD needs to match the shape of the
old one in order for XP to work properly from the start. You'd think by
now they'd have got round that problem. Still, at least the old backup
can be mounted later on and critical files copied over.

Andrew McP

by **Larr** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:52:00

I don't know because I don't trust it and never use it.

I use the Acronis boot option to do all my imaging from Linux, or whatever
they are using as their kernal.

I've restored several times from my "Acronis Secure Zone" without issues.

-Larry

> I know people are mentioning good things about True Image, but I
> wondered if anyone here had actually managed to re-install from an image
> that was created of an O/S that was running at the time. What I mean
> is, I have a copy of True Image 8.0 and have a dual boot system which
> has meant that, prior to version 8 I had always created the image of one
> O/S whilst running from the other one because the imaging software just
> wouldn't let me do it any other way.

> So V8 doesn't have this problem, and so I tried creating an image of XP
> whilst running XP and everything went ok. However, when I came to
> restore said image when I changed my HD it installed but failed to run,
> stopping at the XP Welcome screen and, despite even trying a repair
> install over the top, eventually I had to restore from one of my
> previous backups that was created through the old method.

> So, anyone actually managed to do this without issue using any Version
> of True Image?

> --
> Pete Ives
> Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

by **Larr** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:52:39

As long as the new HD is at least as large as the original, this should not
be an issue. I've been doing it for years.

-Larry

>> However, when I came to restore said image when I
>> changed my HD

> I find Trueimage is as fallible as the rest if restoring an old setup to
> a new hard disk. The "shape" of the HD needs to match the shape of the
> old one in order for XP to work properly from the start. You'd think by
> now they'd have got round that problem. Still, at least the old backup
> can be mounted later on and critical files copied over.

> Andrew McP

by **Steve Simpso** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:16:31

Ghost 2003 was the last reliable version of Ghost. The newer ones are just
rebadged Powerquest Driveimage which runs in Windows and hence aren't
anywhere near as reliable.

by **Larr** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:36:56

Oh, man. You mean they took Drive Image 7, which I think is a pathetic
product, and turned it into Ghost ?

Yuk!

Thank goodness they haven't screwed up the corporate version.

-Larry

by **Don Burnett** » Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:56:54

>> Is there a recommendation for the software to do this? Norton Ghost
>> 10 and True Image 9.0 seem to the be most frequently mentioned
>> titles. Any upside/downside to these programs that anyone wants to
>> comment on?

> Ghost 2003 was the last reliable version of Ghost. The newer ones
> are just rebadged Powerquest Driveimage which runs in Windows and
> hence aren't anywhere near as reliable.

I have not had any issues using Drive Image 7, and I have used it to
restore a working image.
Perhaps I just got lucky...

--
Don Burnette

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