rec.autos.simulators

by **Luca Varan** » Thu, 07 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> > > 1.1) Sorry to have spoken over you head. What I was implying, was
> > >that if there were a card out there that cost 3 times as much ( T2 = $89 :
> > >TSW = $290 : = approx 3 times as much ) as the reactor, that _I_ would
> > >consider that unreasonable cost, and would not purchase it if the $200 card
> > >did the job as well.

> Hi John,

> You might as well give it up<g>! Obviously if this dude cant recognize
> the diff in quality and perf between a cheap plastic toy and a quality,
> hand built piece of equipment, you arent going to convince him.

> His statement above is like comparing a Ferrari to a Chevy Vega, sure
> they'll both do the same job but which would you rather have :)!

Well, you surely all make up for an interesting reading :)
Why do you jump at each other throat so easily? And I thought I was aggressive !
I have never posted anything related to this kind ofthreads, since I don't
think this is what r.a.c. is about, but I have a few minutes :)

The poor guy you are all attacking was making a very true point, I think.
He didn't seem to say that the T2 is better than the TSW or whatever, but
rather than the T2 has a much more affordable price, and that he can't "waste"
200$ to get a better toy. I understand him because I have the same problem :(
Sure I would like to have a Ferrari, but I am not a millionaire, so I have
to cope with different priorities.

Have fun,
Luca

by **Robert Johnso** » Thu, 07 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Glad you like it! :-) Got nothin' better to do at the moment!

aggressive !

Need the exercise, what with all that sitting down we do.

Finally, a kindred soul.

problem :(

I have never said that the T2 was better than the TSW. I don't have a TSW,
so I can't very well judge it's quality. I can read though, and do simple
arithmetic, and come to the conclusion that one TOY is 1/3rd the price of
the other, and they both perform the same function. The TSW _MAY_ perform
this function better, but the increase in performance isn't worth the added
$200 for me. Last time I looked, I was still entitled to my own opinion.

When I get mine, I'll loan it to ya!

Robert

by **Daniel Desland** » Thu, 07 Nov 1996 04:00:00

>>> If you're looking for a reasonably priced professional wheel, the TSW is
>>a
>>> good bet.

>>Reasonably priced? Well, perhaps for you, but I find the $290+ mentioned
>>in the above URL to be just a bit pricey. Will stick with my $89.00 T2 for
>>now.

>Don't even think about an ECCI CDS then!!! Well worth the money
>though, IMHO.

>Stuart

Nothing I would say over 100$ makes sense just to play 2-3 games on a
computer...unless you are millionaire which i am not. I made my own
wheel for less than 20$ and am more than happy with it.

by **David Gar** » Fri, 08 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> I mean a person has to get his priorities in order...eh. If I spent
> 290 dollars US on a steering wheel to play my computer games my fiance
> would cut my balls off in the night and hang them from my monitor....

HAHAHA, Definetly know where your coming from here!(grin)

Dont think he had one in the first place, not much lost.

Sounds like you didnt eat for a few days For the Thrustmaster setup,
Kinda of a contradicting yourself.

Sounds like you need to be on a flight sim post. btw What brand of wheel
are you talking about?
-David Gary "If your nose is runnin and your feet smell....you must be
upside down"

by **John Wallac** » Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00

HEY! You can check this somewhere?! Whereabout? I better keep tabs, I
have a tendency to rabbit.... :)

Cheers, and enjoy the T2!
John

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by **Robert Johnso** » Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> >Last time I looked, I was still entitled to my own opinion.

> HEY! You can check this somewhere?! Whereabout? I better keep tabs, I
> have a tendency to rabbit.... :)

Saw it on the back of a can of Billy Beer. Or was that a bathroom
wall....... Oh well, about the same thing.
Man, wish Nascar 2 would hurry up and get here so I can put this T2 to a
good use. Can't have these cheap plastic toys just sitting around doing
nothin'. That's my job! ;-)

Robert

by **papa..** » Mon, 11 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Geez the more things change the more they stay the same....elitism at
its best....

Hey I can do you one better I got the cheaper GP1 and I love
it....neaner neaner neaner....<G>

Is this a trick question...? The Vega of course.

I mean a person has to get his priorities in order...eh. If I spent
290 dollars US on a steering wheel to play my computer games my fiance
would cut my balls off in the night and hang them from my monitor....

Actually with an attitude like that you have just lost another...I
dont like elitist companies who try to make me feel insignificant
because I wont forgo a few meals to buy their product. Of course you
probably will say that I wouldnt have ever bought your product....umm
lets see I have approx. 350 dollars US invested in TM flight sim
products....nah your right Im not the kind of individual that spends
money on fun.....insult away.

And to me the GP1 was a terrific buy because it doesnt force me to
make a big commitment to a side of my sim playing thats not as
*** as the flight sim side. At least not yet....

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

by **Stuart Boo** » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00

>>Don't even think about an ECCI CDS then!!! Well worth the money
>>though, IMHO.
>Nothing I would say over 100$ makes sense just to play 2-3 games on a
>computer...unless you are millionaire which i am not. I made my own
>wheel for less than 20$ and am more than happy with it.

That's fine! I, on the other hand, wanted a top of the range prebuilt
piece of kit. It really all depends on how much value the individual
puts on the item. I'm not a millionaire (yet! d8-) but after all the
money I've invested in my computer (I use them professionally too) I
didn't mind spending a considerable amount on a computer-sim driving
system that I felt was worth the price. I haven't regretted buying the
top of the range wheel, or paying what I did rather, once during the
year that I've owned the wheel. Given the amount of time I've spent
playing these 2-3 games over the year I've had good value for money. I
did once think about spending a stack of cash on a set of TM flight
gear. But I hardly ever play flight-sims. Now that wouldn't have made
any sense.

Glad you like your home built wheel (the satisfaction of building that
must be something - I wouldn't know where to start!),

Stuart

--
Stuart Booth
Somewhere in Oxfordshire, England, UK

by **papa..** » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Actually its possible that I may feel the need to upgrade if just for
the feel of something close to a real steering wheel...but that is a
ways off and the Thrustmaster GP1 is filling the bill rather nicely
now.

Nah just snuck it by her in bits and pieces....uh honey Im jus gonna
buy this here joystick...hehe its "only" 85.00 dollars....next month
uh honey lookee here this throttle only costs 110.00dollars really its
no big deal eh?

A one time purchase of a steering wheel for 290.00 is gonna be
trickier....uh honey look at this wheel isnt it great....booom. Damn
honey why did ya have to hit me in the store...

Oh dont worry Im usually on the flight sim side of things...thats
where my heart lies...but have to tell you the Thrustmaster GP1 has
really made GP2 alot of fun and the time I spend on it has been
increasing day by day...Finally did a lap around Monza at 1minute 25
seconds....so feeling real good about the GP1....with a joystick I had
to have the autobrakes on and the sim just wasnt that much
fun...remembering braking and turn in points is a blast. Now I realize
that my time at Monza is no great shakes but last week I was going
around it at 1minute 31 seconds....softened up the suspension and away
it went. I want to get down to the 21's

Pierre Legrand
PAPA DOC
Damage, Inc.
Infamous Flanker Pilot...<G>

by **David Gar** » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> <major snipage>

> > I mean a person has to get his priorities in order...eh. If I spent
> > 290 dollars US on a steering wheel to play my computer games my fiance
> > would cut my balls off in the night and hang them from my monitor....

> <more snipage>

> Sounds like you should spend your $290 on a new fiance.

I would go ahead and cut them off myself and duct tape them to my
monitor, that way, before she gets any bright ideas, you can
say......NANANY***OO!!!!!

by **Ira L. Johnso** » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Sounds like you should spend your $290 on a new fiance.

by **Robert Johnso** » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> > I mean a person has to get his priorities in order...eh. If I spent
> > 290 dollars US on a steering wheel to play my computer games my fiance
> > would cut my balls off in the night and hang them from my monitor....

> Sounds like you should spend your $290 on a new fiance.

Where can I get the catalog? Or is there a 800 number? Or was that a 900
number?? :-)

by **William Dahm** » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> <major snipage>

> > I mean a person has to get his priorities in order...eh. If I spent
> > 290 dollars US on a steering wheel to play my computer games my fiance
> > would cut my balls off in the night and hang them from my monitor....

> <more snipage>

> Sounds like you should spend your $290 on a new fiance.

I second this. Sounds like your fiancee has you wraped around her (I
hope it is a her!) finger.

by **papa..** » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

hehe Nah 4.0 thru college, top of the computer science department
senior year college, in grad school.....nah think I will keep the
inexpensive steering wheel and the fiance....a man has to plan for
retirement you know....<G>

PAPA DOC

by **Ira L. Johnso** » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

P.Doc,
Sounds like you might be able to afford to quit your job and stay home and
race all day on any wheel you like before long! Good Luck!!

1J

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