Jim Boka
You been playing on Valium?
When the first yellow came out at Surfers and I was told to go from
first place to behind last place and then no one would pass me... I
knew there was a bug!!!
That was in December 1995. Get real. It is now July 1996 and I
still cannot play the game with the yellows turned on.
Craig.
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Just what was the difference between patching NASCAR with the 1.2
patch and with ICR2?
Adam Levesque actually sent me a disk ... to Canberra Australia ...
with a nice letter ... only about a month after I wrote with my
problems. Why is the IndyCar division and the NASCAR division doing
things different??
I never wanted the WIN95 version so why did I have to wait SEVEN
months?
Sierra only bought Papryus about 3 months ago so that cannot be the
reason.
signed,
Patiently waiting ... still
Ecclesiastes 7:8
Craig
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: Quit ***ing about the patch. The game sure worked fine before anybody
: found out that there was going to be a patch for fixing something. When
: this patch is finally downloaded and added to the game, you probably won't
: notice anything different any way. Give the guy's at Sierra\Papyrus a
: break. They make great games and are always helpful about answering
: questions and problems. Do you think they're holding the release back just
: to spite all the hot heads?? I'll put money on that.
Maybe your quality standards are lower than most. I knew there was
something wrong before they even mentioned a patch and so did most any
other serious sim-racer. With attitudes like yours, no wonder the
quality of workmenship is dropping in most areas.
Papyrus has sorta been the Penske of software (especially when it comes
to racing -- since that's all they do). But, even Penske and his team
screws up at times. All we have been trying to do is let Papyrus
know that they are straying from the standards that make them best.
You don't want the patch? Fine with me.
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Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
> Flame Flame Flame Flame Flame Burn baby burn!!!!
> Quit ***ing about the patch. The game sure worked fine before anybody
> found out that there was going to be a patch for fixing something. When
> this patch is finally downloaded and added to the game, you probably won't
> notice anything different any way. Give the guy's at Sierra\Papyrus a
> break. They make great games and are always helpful about answering
> questions and problems. Do you think they're holding the release back just
> to spite all the hot heads?? I'll put money on that.
> Bill
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Thanks Ed,
I'll just wait patiently and look forward to whatever is released
as an improvement. Thanks for your continued input here in ras. Please
don't be scared away. I accept your reasons as stated. Keep up the
good work on NCR 2!
Ron
>>I certainly hope you would then see fit to include the DOS version on
>>the CD as well. I know it works, and would hate to give it up.
>>Thanks for keeping us up to date.
>>Cheers,
>>Jim Boka
>The retail CD contains the DOS, Win 95 & Mac versions on the same CD.
>That is what would be sent to you.
>Ed Martin
>Producer, Series Director
>NASCAR Racing League
>Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
Craig
Okay some people said I don't know what I'm talking about with my
complaints about all the hype and constant complainting with the PATCH not
done. You're right . I don't own Indy 2 just Nascar. But that wasn't my
point, usually the more you complain the less people will want to help.
Don't alienate Papyrus from us or they may not be so considerate with
there updates in the future.
Bill
> Okay some people said I don't know what I'm talking about with my
> complaints about all the hype and constant complainting with the PATCH not
> done. You're right . I don't own Indy 2 just Nascar. But that wasn't my
> point, usually the more you complain the less people will want to help.
> Don't alienate Papyrus from us or they may not be so considerate with
> there updates in the future.
> Bill
Joe
It's starting to look like Win95's a failure as a platform for
simulations.
Joe
>: The retail CD contains the DOS, Win 95 & Mac versions on the same CD.
>: That is what would be sent to you.
>Not that I want to fuel the flames...
>I certianly hope that this WILL BE the course of action. In November I
>purchased "buggy" software. This was the fourth time Papyrus released
>incomplete/untested software.
Let's give credit where it is due and remember how promptly the 1.2
patch came out for NCR
ICR2 is terrible ... no argument. 7 months without a patch is
terrible ... no argument.
What was the fourth software? Surely you are not impuning
Indianapolis The Simulation? Your a Philistine if you are :-)
Proverbs 15:1
Cheers,
Craig
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>Bill
Then why state that it wasn't buggy?????
Are you interested in politics??
Proverbs 15:2
Craig IVL Toys-R-Us #43 Pontiac - Rick Higbee Motorsports http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hoppy1
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: The retail CD contains the DOS, Win 95 & Mac versions on the same CD.
: That is what would be sent to you.
Not that I want to fuel the flames...
I certianly hope that this WILL BE the course of action. In November I
purchased "buggy" software. This was the fourth time Papyrus released
incomplete/untested software. With ICR1 and NASCAR a patch was made
available for download in about 3 months time. The two track packs
required less time, and took about a month or two. I bit the price for
downloading long distance. I can live with that...
The case with ICR2 is a little different. "Buggy" is an understatement.
Now I know the product was tested (I know a couple of your testers) so it
was clearly released with full knowledge that the software did not
perform as per the box, or the instruction manual.
Mr. Martin/Papyrus/Sierra, I am NOT going to accept "...a patch will be
made available for download...". I will only accept complete CD
replacement (and it sounds as though the manual has been redone too?).
The fact that ICR2 has been reissued ("patched" version) into the market
with the CD containing Win95 *AND* DOS versions of the software while I
still wait for a DOS patch is infurriating.
It even makes me wonder if Papyrus still has me registered on all its
products (ICR, ICR Track Pack, ICR Indy, NASCAR, NASCAR Track Pack, and
ICR2) as I did this electronicly via Papyrus' now defunct BBS. It could
be so easy for them to loose that information and charge me some sort of
fee for CD exchange...
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_-\<,_ Cosmo Potapoff
