rec.autos.simulators

On the street, no one leaves an open room for easy merging, tailgates
and speeds.  Man, its pretty pathetic.

I drive sports car ('82 Camaro V6) and I think people actually follow
me then quickly pass when they find out I'm not gonna go any faster.
1-8KMs over the speed limit is enough.  I go that much over to stay out
of the merge lane and not irritate everyone -- you don't want to see these
drivers merge.

What amazes me are the parents driving like manics with their children
in the cars.  I think I have more consideration for their children than
they do!

I believe I'm a good driver (on the road):

    1. I leave at least 2-3 seconds between me and the car in front.
    2. Allow people to merge in front of me (sometimes 2 cars at a time,
        if the driver behind me is tailgating).
    3. I don't pass the car in front just to get ahead of it.  You know
those
       drivers that try to fill up all gaps in traffic trying to get ahead.

On the track:
    1. Give racing room; Pass when you can.
    2. Have fun.

Thanks for letting me vent.   I'm not looking forward to the drive home,
but
the GPL Series race this evening will be a blast.
--
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Jason Monds
"My other car is a Ferrari"
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
(Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

It's dangerous enough in a car. Between shmucks like Pat Megroin and
yuppie moms in minivans talking on the phone, swatting the ankle
biters and driving at the same time (in that order), you hardly stand
a chance of enjoying yourself on a motorcycle.

Hopefully, I don't need to add delusional GPL players to my list of
people to avoid on the street.
They're probably harder to spot in thier Taurus', Intrepids and
Accords than the more typical ***ers.

I agree with you that you shouldn't be risking anyone's life while
you're using public roads.  It's a shame that there'll always be
someone stupid enough to risk other people's life by driving like he
owns the road.  Lost 2 good friends that way, I should know.

I do not agree with this kind of driving.  That said it happens
sometimes that I act like an idiot, and I think that racing sims have
something to do with that.  So I was asking if racing sim have changed
driving habits for other people too.  I'm not saying it's a good
thing, in fact I know it's plain stupid.

BTW I wouldn't do anything stupid while there are cars (or worse:
pedestrians!) around me, or when I can't see the exit of a curve.  An
example would be the exit I use to get off the highway.  It's just
been re-asphalted and has some nice banking.  Oh and there are no
trees or buildings so you can see everything from the enterance to the
exit or that curve.  I can't help it, I have to hear a little tire
squeeling when I go through there.  I shouldn't, but I do...

And as I've said in another post at this time of year we have much
snow, so I can slide the car around quite a bit without speeding.  I'm
not looking for excuses, I don't have any.  I just hope I'll still be
here to read your posts in year 2000... eheh!

So to all:  Be careful while you're driving, don't risk anybody's life
(including your own) and... stop usage of all racing sims if you're
unable to cope with the urges it produces!

A. Renault

--
Anssi Lehtinen

--

all opinions expressed while drunk, stoned and flying through clouds.

I'm not paranoid.  That's just a rumour started by people out to get me.

Me, but only at racing circuits on trackdays days organised by a club
:-)

Going 'bike racing this year (one make series for near stock MuZ
Skorpion 660cc singles) if that's any good :-))

All the time, especially when I'm on one of the 'bikes rather than in
the car :-)))

But not as much as "big Nige" :-))))

--
Jonathon "JayGee" Green

"Death to all fanatics!"

That is a combination of what I understeer and snap oversteer, and wouldnot
be a four wheel drift.  Afour wheel drift is when all four wheels have a
equal slip angle and cars will go thru a corner faster when this happens.
Kepping the car balanced is the key to this, it can be done with a normal
passenge car by keeping the car balanced and not using aggressive inputs to
the throttle or brakes, which will unbalance the car.

--
David Robinson

Egan's Law  

The Pace car will always go 2 MPH slower then your race car idles in first
gear.

Most people's definition of "Being a good driver" seems to take into
account clipping apexes, chirping the tires away from the lights and
going as fast round a blnd corner as possible, but misses those
insignificant details like actually watching what's going on around
you, taking the time to make that really small arm movement to use
your indicators, or letting people into traffic.

Don't worry, my annoyance at ***driving is getting better now that
I've moved out of Edinburgh, honest! :-)

Cheers!
John

Still, no matter. Australia is far enough away for me not to worry,
although I would prefer you didn't live in Canberra as my sister is
there. I'd hate to think she was returning from the pub at 12:30am
after a few drinks and needed to cross that one way street.

Cheers!
John

My annoyance has increased since I've moved from Southern California to
Boulder, Colorado.  People here think there is a grace period of about
10 seconds after the light turns red.  Incredibly dangerous.

Dave Ewing

My wife isn't too bad... and I got her to take up autocrossing, can you
believe that??

As for the traffic light, Boston was the same way. The drivers there
were the most confrontational I've EVER seen... Chicagoans are polite in
comparison.

I'm just surprised Boulder is worse than SoCal. It seems mellower, but I
guess not... or the drivers are space cadets.

-Dave Schwabe
"If you're in control, you're not going fast enough," - Parnelli Jones
(speaking about racing, not driving on the road) :-)

Or even <shudder mode on> anticpate another drivers action and act on that
anticiapation <shudder mode off>

Well Edinburgh wasn't that bad when I was there a year ago, yes a year ago,
I have driven in far worse <G>.

Take Care

Mark

Anyway this isn't alt.safer.driving so I will get off my pedestal <G>.

BTW my wife is actually quite a good driver, but she still does 0-60 in 2.3
secs <G>. (won't drive with me as a passenger unless I am drunk, don't know
why <G>)

Cheers

Mark

Definitely the latter.  People are generally mellow and polite, and
unlike Boston, are good about letting you merge.  But there is something
about the red light syndrome here that is VERY noticeable.

Dave Ewing

Ha, neeeeeeever happen. For a start you've got to actually be paying
attention to what's going on around you before that can happen. If
someone can't flap a wrist at an indicator, how are they gonna look
around and then think about what they saw?

Oh hell yes, Kuala Lumpur has to be far and away the most mental place
I have driven in - don't, that's my only advice. Taxis are so cheap
(by our standards) that the enormous risk of driving just isn't worth
it. Edinburgh isn't too bad overall, but relative to the more country
environment I'm staying in now it bugs the hell out of me when I'm
back in there.

Cheers!
John