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To all GP3 complainers...

Alexander Mar

To all GP3 complainers...

by Alexander Mar » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does
it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race on
VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good
offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game
yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the
second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released
since GPL saw the light of day.

Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the
revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that sophisticated
before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is
groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history of
racing simulations.

I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely
stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000.

cheers,
---
Alexander Marx

Harjan Bran

To all GP3 complainers...

by Harjan Bran » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

What do you think of the behaviour of the car on the curbs?


> The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does
> it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race
on
> VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good
> offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game
> yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the
> second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released
> since GPL saw the light of day.

> Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the
> revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that
sophisticated
> before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is
> groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history
of
> racing simulations.

> I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely
> stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000.

> cheers,
> ---
> Alexander Marx


Andre Warring

To all GP3 complainers...

by Andre Warring » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00



And those wonderfull screaming engines when you're being passed?
Personally I find that one of the biggest letdowns...
But ofcourse the retail version will have this.

Andre



>> The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does
>> it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race
>on
>> VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good
>> offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game
>> yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the
>> second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released
>> since GPL saw the light of day.

>> Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the
>> revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that
>sophisticated
>> before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is
>> groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history
>of
>> racing simulations.

>> I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely
>> stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000.

>> cheers,
>> ---
>> Alexander Marx


Jan Verschuere

To all GP3 complainers...

by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

What good is excellent weather if you don't have visual/tactile feedback,
nor the confidence to take the car to the limit?

All in all, I agree though.. it's not _that_ bad. The changing weather is a
valliant attempt at innovation, let's hope someone can build on it to make a
better game.

It's just too much like a GP2 add-on for my taste, I'm sorry.

Jan.
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Jan Loebzie

To all GP3 complainers...

by Jan Loebzie » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:37:34 +0200, "Alexander Marx"


>don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the
>second coming.

Wouldn't that be the 3rd coming? :-)
Greg Cisk

To all GP3 complainers...

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00


on

Now why doesn't this surprise me???

sophisticated

I call it something that should have been included in GP2.

At one time I couldn't understand why you had a hardon for
F1 2000. But now you are looking like a fool and a total
Geoff Crammond suck boy...

As I seemed to recall, you somehow thought you were a real race
car driver or something? That is totally laughable.

Wow.
--


> ---
> Alexander Marx


Greg Cisk

To all GP3 complainers...

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Why I am sure he loves it... How can you ask him such a question??

--




> > The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy
does
> > it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race
> on
> > VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good
> > offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game
> > yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected
the
> > second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released
> > since GPL saw the light of day.

> > Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call
the
> > revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that
> sophisticated
> > before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is
> > groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history
> of
> > racing simulations.

> > I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are
absolutely
> > stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000.

> > cheers,
> > ---
> > Alexander Marx


Alexander Mar

To all GP3 complainers...

by Alexander Mar » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

much more forgiving than in GP2, it somehow seems like the curb is wider,
program-wise, than is displayed in the graphics. But at least the curbs are
in the right place most of the time ;-).  Also, not every curb is the
ame  - there are ones that upset the car  so much that you lose it almost
certainly. But it's a minor flaw indeed.

Alexander Mar

To all GP3 complainers...

by Alexander Mar » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I am just stating my opinion, and I'm pretty confident others feel the same
about it. GP2 was the best modern F1-sim even after the release of F1-2000
(which I still own btw).

I am not, and I never said that. But I have driven a Formula 3 car on two
occasions and have experience in 13hp+ Karts. If I ever did dare to bring in
that personal experience in any kind of posting about Racing Simulations, I
sincerely apologize.

Why can I read your posts anyway ? Thought I had plonked you long ago.

Peter Ive

To all GP3 complainers...

by Peter Ive » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00



So am I expected to want this game because 1 race is 5 (yeah I'm
estimating here) is going to have changeable weather?  It's going to
require a lot more than that to keep me coming back.  As is though, I'll
wait until the full version appears and then see what people are saying
about it before I decide whether it's worth getting.

--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Senninh

To all GP3 complainers...

by Senninh » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:37:34 +0200, "Alexander Marx"


>Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the
>revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that sophisticated
>before?

Would you rather have a fabulous drive with no weather, or fabulous
weather with no drive?

Sure, both would be great, but all weather and no drive? No thanks.

John

Greg Cisk

To all GP3 complainers...

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Cool.

Yes that is what I remember. Thanks for reminding me. However as
I recall at the time, you used that experience as all the proof anyone
in their right mind needed as proof that F1 2000 sucked. IMHO you
were wrong. And that is what pissed me off so much.

The *ONLY* bad thing about F1 2000 that I agree with all of you guys
about is the poor performance at the start of GP races. However since
I upgraded my CPU to a P3-600 that has not been an issue.

Noted... I guess you are an ok guy after all.

Because that is how plonking works. When I get a new ISP or
change my email address in my news reader you will see my
stuff.

--


Morgan V. Wooten

To all GP3 complainers...

by Morgan V. Wooten » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

We're paying what? $30, $40, $50... for a GP2 weather add-on? Crammond spent
four years to create a weather patch? HA! Buyer beware!

--
-----------------------------------
Morgan Vincent Wooten
GPLRank: +31.07

http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/
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> The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does
> it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race on
> VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good
> offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game
> yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the
> second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released
> since GPL saw the light of day.

> Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the
> revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that sophisticated
> before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is
> groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history of
> racing simulations.

> I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely
> stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000.

> cheers,
> ---
> Alexander Marx


Todd Sorense

To all GP3 complainers...

by Todd Sorense » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I agree. I am really enjoying it. The weather is cool. It seems a little
easy, but I'm not that great of a driver, so it works for me!!


> The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy does
> it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race
on
> VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good
> offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game
> yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected the
> second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released
> since GPL saw the light of day.

> Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call the
> revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that
sophisticated
> before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is
> groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history
of
> racing simulations.

> I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are absolutely
> stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000.

> cheers,
> ---
> Alexander Marx


Don Burnett

To all GP3 complainers...

by Don Burnett » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Where are you guys getting this 4 year stuff? Wasn't it as little as a year
or so ago Crammond denied being involved in a GP3 sim?
I think perhaps it may have been put together fairly quickly based on GP2.

--
Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends
ICQ# 74084566



> We're paying what? $30, $40, $50... for a GP2 weather add-on? Crammond
spent
> four years to create a weather patch? HA! Buyer beware!

> --
> -----------------------------------
> Morgan Vincent Wooten
> GPLRank: +31.07

> http://members.tripod.com/~morganv/
> -----------------------------------



> > The game delivers exactly what MPS has promised all the way - and boy
does
> > it deliver! Give this excellent sim a chance - you won't be able to race
on
> > VROC but you've got GPL for that. Everybody who can appreciate a good
> > offline racing experience against the most advanced AI in a racing game
> > yet - don't write it off just because some people apparently expected
the
> > second coming. You would miss out on the best racing sim to be released
> > since GPL saw the light of day.

> > Everyone who accuses GP3 of lack of new features : what would you call
the
> > revolutionary new weather system ? Has papy done anything that
sophisticated
> > before ? Ubi Soft ? Anybody ? Sorry, but the weather in GP3 truly is
> > groundbreaking, innovative stuff that will take its place in the history
of
> > racing simulations.

> > I can't see anything bad about the graphics either .. they are
absolutely
> > stunning on my Cel500, Voodoo3 3000.

> > cheers,
> > ---
> > Alexander Marx



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