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THE history of Sim Racing! BUT...

Swindell

THE history of Sim Racing! BUT...

by Swindell » Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:00:00

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

This page is absolutly fantastic! Jo Helsen has put together one of the most
comprehensive web pages charting the route along the history of our beloved
hobby :) I think that all the sims on this page have been mentioned under my
previous topic "How long have you been doing it? When was your first time?"
thanks to you guys, but we still can't say when sim racing was 'born'. How do
we go about establishing specific date?

One way is to maybe find out which is the most popular sim that people were
playing back 'then' (eg pre-1989?) and the release date of that game will be
the day in question.

Any other ideas?

Rob

Don Hanco

THE history of Sim Racing! BUT...

by Don Hanco » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00

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        I would bet that most publishers have their release dates in
some database SOMEwhere.  Just find out who the publisher of a
specific game and get ahold of them (unless they're defunct - in which
case you'll have to PRAY someone might still have the box).  You MIGHT
also try the copyright office in case they copyrighted it!

"Gunner"
ORSA Bronze #78 Navy Dodge truck

Dennis Brow

THE history of Sim Racing! BUT...

by Dennis Brow » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>thanks to you guys, but we still can't say when sim racing was 'born'. How do
>we go about establishing specific date?

What is the criteria for a sim? Clearly there has been a continuum of
"realism" over the years of creating racing games, and some of them now
are really good sims. Where do we draw the line to say "every game that has
these features is a sim?"

With all that in mind, I vote for Night Driver, from Atari, 10/29/1976
(see it at http://www.tc.umn.edu/~johns594/arcade/klov/N/Night_Driver.html)
It has a steering wheel and gas pedal. How realistic! :) It came out when
I was 3, so I never played it (though I played the Atari 2600 home version
a bit).

The next month came 280-Zzzap! (play it on MAME) in 11/76, possibly the
first game to be based on a real car (the Datsun 280Z). I'm sure it was a
totally realistic driving model. :)

The first driving game I though was pretty realistic (as a 9-year old)
was Turbo by Sega in 1981
(http://www.tc.umn.edu/~johns594/arcade/klov/T/Turbo.html).

I was really hooked on OutRun (Sega, 1986) and liked that you had brakes
and a shifter, could do burnouts, the car actually looked like it was
turning, etc., but it still wasn't much of a sim.

Virtua Racing (Sega (again!), early 90s) was the first 3D (polygon)-based
racer I played, and I loved it. It really set a new standard in graphical
and control realism IMHO, at least, for an arcade game.

Finally, after I learned how to drive and did some road course driving
schools, my vote for "realistic enough for me" (using a wheel and pedals)
goes to Indycar Racing I by Papyrus. I upgraded my 386 to a 486 just to
play it back in 1993.

It was so different than arcade racers that I found it really frustrating
and basically ignored it for 6 years! Now it really screams on my 400Mhz
box! :) Actually, now I'm into GPL and IndyCar II (aka CART Racing).

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dschw

THE history of Sim Racing! BUT...

by dschw » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

An interesting read, but no mention of the Papy Nascar series or the
NROS but the inclusion of CPR?


Jo Hels

THE history of Sim Racing! BUT...

by Jo Hels » Sat, 03 Apr 1999 04:00:00


Hello,

nice to see that I got some hits..  :-)

To answer your question: I'm perfectly aware that these titles were not
included, but I *do* mention that I only included open-wheel racers in the
second paragraph (?) I had to draw a line somewhere or I could have included
just about anything.

Cu,

Jo Helsen
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