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GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

G. Patrick

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by G. Patrick » Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:47:06

Runs great without issues, Track IR (my TIR 3 Pro anyeway) works
flawlessly in it, excellent physics (IMO), and just downright FUN to
play. I even skipped using the "$$$ cheat" and am playing it starting
out with the old cars and working my way up slowly. Just bought a
Jaguar MKII to add to my Mini and Lotus Cortina (I LIKE the Cortina!),
can't wait to see how it runs..

Once I get a bit better i'll check out multiplayer, I win now using a
rather "pushy" technique... ;-)

GP

Jeff Rei

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by Jeff Rei » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:53:46

Warning, the career mode is 1039 laps total. Cup E is most of them,
730 laps, mostly 8 events at 20 laps a piece, plus 2 60 lap events.

If you get tired of this, you can edit your .PLR file, changing
Vehical Removal time from 30.0000 seconds to 0.0100 seconds, which
causes the AI to dissappear at the start of a race. You can then
quit and all get a DNF, but you remain at the top of the leaderboard,
winning all cups without running any laps.

The money cheat is good because you can buy all but the 11 cars that
you win during career mode. You can run more of a variety of cars
during career mode.

Chad Roger

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by Chad Roger » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 04:43:19

You will have most of the cars and tracks available to you after finishing
cup c and you will have enough money to buy anything you want.  I am just
starting cup D and have all but 2 tracks unlocked and can buy any car(with
the exception of the locked ones).  I think it's a good learning curve to
try the single player, without it I would have never driven the smaller
cars/tracks.

Chad


G. Patrick

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by G. Patrick » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:36:36

Thanks Jeff, i'll keep going as long as I can, If I ever get to a
point where i'm not enjoying the competition i'll give your method a
go.

GP


>Warning, the career mode is 1039 laps total. Cup E is most of them,
>730 laps, mostly 8 events at 20 laps a piece, plus 2 60 lap events.

>If you get tired of this, you can edit your .PLR file, changing
>Vehical Removal time from 30.0000 seconds to 0.0100 seconds, which
>causes the AI to dissappear at the start of a race. You can then
>quit and all get a DNF, but you remain at the top of the leaderboard,
>winning all cups without running any laps.

>The money cheat is good because you can buy all but the 11 cars that
>you win during career mode. You can run more of a variety of cars
>during career mode.

Tony Rickar

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 09:07:19


> Runs great without issues, Track IR (my TIR 3 Pro anyeway) works
> flawlessly in it, excellent physics (IMO), and just downright FUN to
> play. I even skipped using the "$$$ cheat" and am playing it starting
> out with the old cars and working my way up slowly. Just bought a
> Jaguar MKII to add to my Mini and Lotus Cortina (I LIKE the Cortina!),
> can't wait to see how it runs..

> Once I get a bit better i'll check out multiplayer, I win now using a
> rather "pushy" technique... ;-)

Hi Gareth, I got mine from Sweden, arrived not long before the UK release :)

After finishing the A and B series I used Jeff's advice to speed up the
progress just so I could try all the cars. I just love the Porsche 911.
I wasn't keen on the shortened tracks though the slower cars are also fun.

A quick venture online seems pretty stable so far.

I like it too :)

Cheers
Tony

Bruce Kennewel

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:20:51

Don't let Byron read you saying that!

:)

Bruce


Mr. Sylvestr

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by Mr. Sylvestr » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:26:18


> Runs great without issues, Track IR (my TIR 3 Pro anyeway) works
> flawlessly in it, excellent physics (IMO), and just downright FUN to
> play. I even skipped using the "$$$ cheat" and am playing it starting
> out with the old cars and working my way up slowly. (...)

I like it too, and so far I resisted the temptation to use Jeff Reid's
trick to unlock cars & circuits faster.  I must say I had a mixed
opinion after the demo, but I have been proven wrong on two counts:

- the car/circuit locking isn't as bad a thing as it seems; being forced
to drive the "lesser" cars before jumping into the Pantera or Cobra is
probably a good thing as you progressively adapt and refine your
sim-driving skills;

- these old-cars-with-modern-tyres-and-setups-on-modern-tracks are in
fact fun to drive in the sim. Most modern tracks might look boring for
F1 racing, but blasting through chicanes in Cortina's or Alfa GTA's is
plenty of fun.

One gripe though, the gamma setting that Simbin used for the graphics is
really much too low (dark).  With the default settings, racing at any
time other than 14:00 is very unpleasant (yes, I do know how to use the
headlights).  Thankfully,  downloading the ATI tray tools and defining a
game profile saved the day (and made driving in the night possible).

The FPS are not stellar on my P4 2.8GHz/ATI9800pro system *BUT* while
35-40 FPS might seem low by today's standards, the game is very smooth
at this rate (also remember that GPL is limited to 36 FPS)

Overall, I am glad I bought GT Legends at full price now rather than
waiting for it to appear in the bargain bin as I planned to initially,
but IMHO, the demo would have been more effective had it included a car
such as the Cortina or Alfa instead of the Type E or the Corvette.  Or
maybe I just suck at driving the more glamorous cars ;)

Regards,
Mr. Sylvestre

Uwe Sch??rkam

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:49:23


> Runs great without issues, Track IR (my TIR 3 Pro anyeway) works
> flawlessly in it, excellent physics (IMO), and just downright FUN to
> play. I even skipped using the "$$$ cheat" and am playing it starting
> out with the old cars and working my way up slowly. Just bought a

I like it too, but fps are horrible in single player / AI races. I get
less than 20fps in the mini challenge at Anderstorp at night which
really is too low to provide enjoyable racing. I've tried reducing the
settings and using different dx levels, but it didn't have any
signifcant impact on performance (GTR, GPL, rf and friends all run fine
on my 9800 pro / amd64 3200+ / 1gb ddr-400 RAM).

Any advice what settings I could try to improve fps?

Cheers, uwe

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G. Patrick

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by G. Patrick » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:06:39

Have you tried all the suggestions on page 30 of the GTL manual?
I would try it with less AI cars, that usually has the greatest
effect.. I havn't had any issues and I run a PIV 3000, 6800 GT
(256MB), and 1GB DDR..

Latest video drivers? Try Omega's? I always found them to be
excellent..



>> Runs great without issues, Track IR (my TIR 3 Pro anyeway) works
>> flawlessly in it, excellent physics (IMO), and just downright FUN to
>> play. I even skipped using the "$$$ cheat" and am playing it starting
>> out with the old cars and working my way up slowly. Just bought a

>I like it too, but fps are horrible in single player / AI races. I get
>less than 20fps in the mini challenge at Anderstorp at night which
>really is too low to provide enjoyable racing. I've tried reducing the
>settings and using different dx levels, but it didn't have any
>signifcant impact on performance (GTR, GPL, rf and friends all run fine
>on my 9800 pro / amd64 3200+ / 1gb ddr-400 RAM).

>Any advice what settings I could try to improve fps?

>Cheers, uwe

G. Patrick

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by G. Patrick » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:11:55

It's funny how different people react to the demo car choices. For me,
I liked the Lotus and couldn't do ***in the Jag or Corvette. A buddy
of mine just got the demo and he loves the Corvette.. I think it's a
testament to the physics engine, good or bad, that different cars
"feel" more comfortable right off the bat. I drive a rear engine car
on/off track in RL and I do better in a lighter, oversteering
situation.

Not sure why I like the Lotus Cortina so much, but I do... 8-).

GP


>Overall, I am glad I bought GT Legends at full price now rather than
>waiting for it to appear in the bargain bin as I planned to initially,
>but IMHO, the demo would have been more effective had it included a car
>such as the Cortina or Alfa instead of the Type E or the Corvette.  Or
>maybe I just suck at driving the more glamorous cars ;)
>Regards,
>Mr. Sylvestre

Tony Rickar

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:57:53


> I like it too, but fps are horrible in single player / AI races. I get
> less than 20fps in the mini challenge at Anderstorp at night which
> really is too low to provide enjoyable racing. I've tried reducing the
> settings and using different dx levels, but it didn't have any
> signifcant impact on performance (GTR, GPL, rf and friends all run fine
> on my 9800 pro / amd64 3200+ / 1gb ddr-400 RAM).

> Any advice what settings I could try to improve fps?

One of teh issues with the cup challenges is you can't reduce the AI.
Some of the challenges have pretty big fields. Once through those you
can create your own custom races with AI to match your system. I have an
almost identical system and get nearly twice those frames with 13-14 AI.

Some tracks are worse than others - Donington & Anderstorp being quite
poor for frame rates.

Reducing AA and AF helped for me. Reducing mipmap quality makes it look
horrible though. I have also gone for reduced track textures which helped.

Online seems better though so I guess the CPU plays an important part
with GTL.

I am thinking of upgrading soon and think GTL will be the catalyst to
make it sooner rather than later, just as GPL did all those years ago...

Cheers
Tony

PlowBo

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by PlowBo » Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:50:50

I got online last night, saw 4 servers, one I could join (practice) and cant
pick a car that was possibly allowed (yeas I had just installed the game and
calibrated the wheel) & I only went online so I could get the online code
entered so I wouldn't forget where it was LATER, you know...  Still, sheesh,
nobody else suck with the mini and cortina running online, that is going to
suck for a while...

Bruce Kennewell enlightened us with:

> Don't let Byron read you saying that!

> :)

> Bruce



>> .... and just downright FUN to play.

PlowBo

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by PlowBo » Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:52:52

I must be like your buddy, I cant drive the demo' 2 evil little engined cars
for shit, but I was smoking the AI in the vette..
G. Patricks enlightened us with:
> It's funny how different people react to the demo car choices. For me,
> I liked the Lotus and couldn't do ***in the Jag or Corvette. A buddy
> of mine just got the demo and he loves the Corvette.. I think it's a
> testament to the physics engine, good or bad, that different cars
> "feel" more comfortable right off the bat. I drive a rear engine car
> on/off track in RL and I do better in a lighter, oversteering
> situation.

> Not sure why I like the Lotus Cortina so much, but I do... 8-).

> GP

>> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:26:18 +0100, "Mr. Sylvestre"

>> Legends at full price now rather than
>> waiting for it to appear in the bargain bin as I planned to
>> initially,
>> but IMHO, the demo would have been more effective had it included a
>> car
>> such as the Cortina or Alfa instead of the Type E or the Corvette.
>> Or
>> maybe I just suck at driving the more glamorous cars ;)
>> Regards,
>> Mr. Sylvestre

PlowBo

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by PlowBo » Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:55:25

I couldn agree more, Nascar and even GPL forced me to upgrade all those
years, now I have the game that is forcing upgrades again (Oh joy) <insert
spong bob's happy happy joy joy song...  or whatever cartoon that was..>
<VBG>

Tony Rickard enlightened us with:


>> I like it too, but fps are horrible in single player / AI races. I
>> get less than 20fps in the mini challenge at Anderstorp at night
>> which really is too low to provide enjoyable racing. I've tried
>> reducing the settings and using different dx levels, but it didn't
>> have any signifcant impact on performance (GTR, GPL, rf and friends
>> all run fine on my 9800 pro / amd64 3200+ / 1gb ddr-400 RAM).

>> Any advice what settings I could try to improve fps?

> One of teh issues with the cup challenges is you can't reduce the AI.
> Some of the challenges have pretty big fields. Once through those you
> can create your own custom races with AI to match your system. I have
> an almost identical system and get nearly twice those frames with
> 13-14 AI.
> Some tracks are worse than others - Donington & Anderstorp being quite
> poor for frame rates.

> Reducing AA and AF helped for me. Reducing mipmap quality makes it
> look horrible though. I have also gone for reduced track textures
> which helped.
> Online seems better though so I guess the CPU plays an important part
> with GTL.

> I am thinking of upgrading soon and think GTL will be the catalyst to
> make it sooner rather than later, just as GPL did all those years
> ago...
> Cheers
> Tony

G. Patrick

GT Legends -- I LIKE it!

by G. Patrick » Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:37:43

Just finished the 2nd Cup Challange, received a Mustang Coupe as a
prize. I used the Alfa GTC and on the short tracks the gearing was
perfect (could be a little taller on long tracks). Next Cup Challange
is the "Pony" races, all Mustangs.. guess thats why they gave me one!

Hi, my name is Gary and i'm a GTL ***..
9-)

GP


>Runs great without issues, Track IR (my TIR 3 Pro anyeway) works
>flawlessly in it, excellent physics (IMO), and just downright FUN to
>play. I even skipped using the "$$$ cheat" and am playing it starting
>out with the old cars and working my way up slowly. Just bought a
>Jaguar MKII to add to my Mini and Lotus Cortina (I LIKE the Cortina!),
>can't wait to see how it runs..

>Once I get a bit better i'll check out multiplayer, I win now using a
>rather "pushy" technique... ;-)

>GP


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