rec.autos.simulators

> My new Asus A8V/Athlon64 3500 system has been literally flawless with
> one exception.

> On occasion when installing software/drivers (for example, the updates
> from creative.com), at the very end I get an error that states some sort
> of a memory reference error.

> It does not crash the system, and it does not affect the installation of
> the drivers or software.

> it has only happened with one or two installers.

> Anyone else seen this?

> I'm thinking it's more of an installer issue than a driver/software issue.

> Other than that, it's been flawless.

> The thing will even boot from a USB hard drive, which caught me
> off-guard when I was setting it up.  I had an IBM porta-drive connected
> that I had backed everything up to (no boot system) and the BIOS picked
> up on it.  I got a couple of failed boot messages from the BIOS before I
> figured out what was going on :)

> -Larry

> The case I used for this new system is the Antec "Sonata".

> It's a damned fine case methinks.

> It uses 120MM fans so it's very quite, and it has their low-noise 380 watt
> supply.

> Everything uses RAILS and the drives slide in from the SIDE, which makes
> plumbing incredibly easy.

> And, for the first time ever, all of the front panel ports (USB, FireWire,
> etc...) were PLUG and PLAY!  The all head the proper block connectors that
> matched _perfectly_ with the associate ports on the Motherboard.

> The only connections that were still 'single-pinned' were the typical HD
> Light, Power and Speaker and that's because there is no standard for that
> connector block on motherboards (yet).

> The finish is near Piano-Black quality, and it's built like a tank.

> External drives are covered by a door so my white drives are hidden away
> finally :)

> I have experienced no cooling issues whatsoever.  Those 120mm fans move a
> TON of air and do it quitely.  You hear more a whoosh from the air itself
> than you do the fans.

> For $119 I think this thing is awesome.

> If one had to find a complaint, it would be that the motherboard tray is
> not removeable.  For some reason Antec still isn't on tha bandwagon.

> But there is more than enough room and installing the board was no issue
> whatsoever.

> I recommend you take a look if you are building a new machine and need a
> new case.

> it is steel, so it's a bit heavier than the Lian-Li's and other aluminums,
> but it sure isn't gonna fall apart :)

>> All,

>> My new Asus A8V/Athlon64 3500 system has been literally flawless with one
>> exception.

>> On occasion when installing software/drivers (for example, the updates
>> from creative.com), at the very end I get an error that states some sort
>> of a memory reference error.

>> It does not crash the system, and it does not affect the installation of
>> the drivers or software.

>> it has only happened with one or two installers.

>> Anyone else seen this?

>> I'm thinking it's more of an installer issue than a driver/software
>> issue.

>> Other than that, it's been flawless.

>> The thing will even boot from a USB hard drive, which caught me off-guard
>> when I was setting it up.  I had an IBM porta-drive connected that I had
>> backed everything up to (no boot system) and the BIOS picked up on it.  I
>> got a couple of failed boot messages from the BIOS before I figured out
>> what was going on :)

>> -Larry

>>BTW...

>>The case I used for this new system is the Antec "Sonata".

>>It's a damned fine case methinks.

>>It uses 120MM fans so it's very quite, and it has their low-noise 380 watt
>>supply.

>>Everything uses RAILS and the drives slide in from the SIDE, which makes
>>plumbing incredibly easy.

>>And, for the first time ever, all of the front panel ports (USB, FireWire,
>>etc...) were PLUG and PLAY!  The all head the proper block connectors that
>>matched _perfectly_ with the associate ports on the Motherboard.

>>The only connections that were still 'single-pinned' were the typical HD
>>Light, Power and Speaker and that's because there is no standard for that
>>connector block on motherboards (yet).

>>The finish is near Piano-Black quality, and it's built like a tank.

>>External drives are covered by a door so my white drives are hidden away
>>finally :)

>>I have experienced no cooling issues whatsoever.  Those 120mm fans move a
>>TON of air and do it quitely.  You hear more a whoosh from the air itself
>>than you do the fans.

>>For $119 I think this thing is awesome.

>>If one had to find a complaint, it would be that the motherboard tray is
>>not removeable.  For some reason Antec still isn't on tha bandwagon.

>>But there is more than enough room and installing the board was no issue
>>whatsoever.

>>I recommend you take a look if you are building a new machine and need a
>>new case.

>>it is steel, so it's a bit heavier than the Lian-Li's and other aluminums,
>>but it sure isn't gonna fall apart :)

>>>All,

>>>My new Asus A8V/Athlon64 3500 system has been literally flawless with one
>>>exception.

>>>On occasion when installing software/drivers (for example, the updates
>>>from creative.com), at the very end I get an error that states some sort
>>>of a memory reference error.

>>>It does not crash the system, and it does not affect the installation of
>>>the drivers or software.

>>>it has only happened with one or two installers.

>>>Anyone else seen this?

>>>I'm thinking it's more of an installer issue than a driver/software
>>>issue.

>>>Other than that, it's been flawless.

>>>The thing will even boot from a USB hard drive, which caught me off-guard
>>>when I was setting it up.  I had an IBM porta-drive connected that I had
>>>backed everything up to (no boot system) and the BIOS picked up on it.  I
>>>got a couple of failed boot messages from the BIOS before I figured out
>>>what was going on :)

>>>-Larry

> As the other poster mentioned your combo is memory finicky maybe swap out a
> few sticks if you have that option..

> Mitch

> I think you mis-read part of what I wrote.

> I LOVE the drive cages and the way the drives mount.  The *** isolaters
> are a nice touch.

> I was talking about the Motherboard Tray not being removeable.

> As for the memory, that's not where the issue lies.  This system has been
> up without a restart since Monday and since I've been working from home
> it's had constant use, including ***.  If I had memory issues, they
> would have shown up elsewhere as well.

> After I built it it ran a low-level memory tester overnight with no
> defects.

> So, in _theory_, it should not be a memory issue :)

> -Larry

>> Ive been using the Sonata case for quite some time.  Yeah its nice.  You
>> mentioned that this case doesnt use a tray for HD's.  This is true but at
>> least you can use the side clips that make the HDs removable quite
>> easily.

>> As the other poster mentioned your combo is memory finicky maybe swap out
>> a few sticks if you have that option..

>> Mitch

> The case I used for this new system is the Antec "Sonata".

> It's a damned fine case methinks.

> It uses 120MM fans so it's very quite, and it has their low-noise 380
> watt supply.

> Everything uses RAILS and the drives slide in from the SIDE, which
>  makes plumbing incredibly easy.

> And, for the first time ever, all of the front panel ports (USB,
> FireWire, etc...) were PLUG and PLAY!  The all head the proper block
> connectors that matched _perfectly_ with the associate ports on the
> Motherboard.

> The only connections that were still 'single-pinned' were the typical
> HD Light, Power and Speaker and that's because there is no standard
> for that connector block on motherboards (yet).

> The finish is near Piano-Black quality, and it's built like a tank.

> External drives are covered by a door so my white drives are hidden
> away finally :)

> I have experienced no cooling issues whatsoever.  Those 120mm fans
> move a TON of air and do it quitely.  You hear more a whoosh from the
> air itself than you do the fans.

> For $119 I think this thing is awesome.

> If one had to find a complaint, it would be that the motherboard tray
> is not removeable.  For some reason Antec still isn't on tha
> bandwagon.
> But there is more than enough room and installing the board was no
> issue whatsoever.

> I recommend you take a look if you are building a new machine and
> need a new case.

> it is steel, so it's a bit heavier than the Lian-Li's and other
> aluminums, but it sure isn't gonna fall apart :)

>> All,

>> My new Asus A8V/Athlon64 3500 system has been literally flawless with
>> one exception.

>> On occasion when installing software/drivers (for example, the
>> updates from creative.com), at the very end I get an error that
>> states some sort of a memory reference error.

>> It does not crash the system, and it does not affect the
>> installation of the drivers or software.

>> it has only happened with one or two installers.

>> Anyone else seen this?

>> I'm thinking it's more of an installer issue than a driver/software
>> issue. Other than that, it's been flawless.

>> The thing will even boot from a USB hard drive, which caught me
>> off-guard when I was setting it up.  I had an IBM porta-drive
>> connected that I had backed everything up to (no boot system) and
>> the BIOS picked up on it.  I got a couple of failed boot messages
>> from the BIOS before I figured out what was going on :)

>> -Larry

> Have you overclocked that puppy yet? I ain't happy unless I am
> overclocking :). I am currently running the A7N8X Deluxe version 2, with
> an Athlon Barton XP 2800+, overclocked to 3200+ speeds. Pretty happy still
> with my system, but the urge to upgrade to 64 bit is starting to hit me.

> --
> Don Burnette

>> BTW...

>> The case I used for this new system is the Antec "Sonata".

>> It's a damned fine case methinks.

>> It uses 120MM fans so it's very quite, and it has their low-noise 380
>> watt supply.

>> Everything uses RAILS and the drives slide in from the SIDE, which
>>  makes plumbing incredibly easy.

>> And, for the first time ever, all of the front panel ports (USB,
>> FireWire, etc...) were PLUG and PLAY!  The all head the proper block
>> connectors that matched _perfectly_ with the associate ports on the
>> Motherboard.

>> The only connections that were still 'single-pinned' were the typical
>> HD Light, Power and Speaker and that's because there is no standard
>> for that connector block on motherboards (yet).

>> The finish is near Piano-Black quality, and it's built like a tank.

>> External drives are covered by a door so my white drives are hidden
>> away finally :)

>> I have experienced no cooling issues whatsoever.  Those 120mm fans
>> move a TON of air and do it quitely.  You hear more a whoosh from the
>> air itself than you do the fans.

>> For $119 I think this thing is awesome.

>> If one had to find a complaint, it would be that the motherboard tray
>> is not removeable.  For some reason Antec still isn't on tha
>> bandwagon.
>> But there is more than enough room and installing the board was no
>> issue whatsoever.

>> I recommend you take a look if you are building a new machine and
>> need a new case.

>> it is steel, so it's a bit heavier than the Lian-Li's and other
>> aluminums, but it sure isn't gonna fall apart :)

>>> All,

>>> My new Asus A8V/Athlon64 3500 system has been literally flawless with
>>> one exception.

>>> On occasion when installing software/drivers (for example, the
>>> updates from creative.com), at the very end I get an error that
>>> states some sort of a memory reference error.

>>> It does not crash the system, and it does not affect the
>>> installation of the drivers or software.

>>> it has only happened with one or two installers.

>>> Anyone else seen this?

>>> I'm thinking it's more of an installer issue than a driver/software
>>> issue. Other than that, it's been flawless.

>>> The thing will even boot from a USB hard drive, which caught me
>>> off-guard when I was setting it up.  I had an IBM porta-drive
>>> connected that I had backed everything up to (no boot system) and
>>> the BIOS picked up on it.  I got a couple of failed boot messages
>>> from the BIOS before I figured out what was going on :)

>>> -Larry

> Have you overclocked that puppy yet? I ain't happy unless I am overclocking
> :). I am currently running the A7N8X Deluxe version 2, with an Athlon Barton
> XP 2800+, overclocked to 3200+ speeds. Pretty happy still with my system,
> but the urge to upgrade to 64 bit is starting to hit me.

>>All,

>>My new Asus A8V/Athlon64 3500 system has been literally flawless with one
>>exception.

>>On occasion when installing software/drivers (for example, the updates
>>from creative.com), at the very end I get an error that states some sort
>>of a memory reference error.

> I've had this happen randomly with my old windows XP install, it had
> something to do with the .NET Framework 1.1, I reinstalled that and it went
> away. There is a small chance it would actually be the memory, but for now
> treat it like a software problem, but run some memory test programs.

> Interesting...

> -Larry

>>> All,

>>> My new Asus A8V/Athlon64 3500 system has been literally flawless
>>> with one exception.

>>> On occasion when installing software/drivers (for example, the
>>> updates from creative.com), at the very end I get an error that
>>> states some sort of a memory reference error.

>> I've had this happen randomly with my old windows XP install, it had
>> something to do with the .NET Framework 1.1, I reinstalled that and
>> it went away. There is a small chance it would actually be the
>> memory, but for now treat it like a software problem, but run some
>> memory test programs.

> Interesting...