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D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

MLRESCH

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by MLRESCH » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL. if  you do not like GPL
keep it to your self, so you don't messit up for the rest of us. We are luckey
Mike and the boys let us preview this milestone of a game, Please Don't make
them regret it!!

-Mark

Chris

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Chris » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

It's an arcade racer....but a very good arcade racer, and probably one I
will buy.  Unfortuantely, there are many, many people who seem to believe
the same way.  It is a VERY GOOD arcade racing game.  Probably the best
ever!  Great job Papy!  Extremely fun game so far!



them!!

>I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL. if  you do not like
GPL
>keep it to your self, so you don't messit up for the rest of us. We are
luckey
>Mike and the boys let us preview this milestone of a game, Please Don't
make
>them regret it!!

>-Mark

Bruce Kennewel

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Fair's fair, pally!
I also like the "demo", for what it is, but, by the same token, those who find
something objectionable about it have as much right to express it here as you or I
have!!

If you "will not tollerate (sic) any more negative post (sic) about GPL", then
simply don't read them.



> I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL. if  you do not like GPL
> keep it to your self, so you don't messit up for the rest of us. We are luckey
> Mike and the boys let us preview this milestone of a game, Please Don't make
> them regret it!!

> -Mark

--
Bruce.
(At home)
Jake

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Jake » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Everyone has an opinion.
Thats what these NG's are for.
To Bad.

For the record GPL feels like ICR2...A skating rink.
Im sure those cars handled bad..but not like this.

My old shitty Camaro handled better!



them!!

>I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL. if  you do not like
GPL
>keep it to your self, so you don't messit up for the rest of us. We are
luckey
>Mike and the boys let us preview this milestone of a game, Please Don't
make
>them regret it!!

>-Mark

Ronald Stoe

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Ronald Stoe » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00



> I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL. if  you do not like GPL
> keep it to your self, so you don't messit up for the rest of us. We are luckey
> Mike and the boys let us preview this milestone of a game, Please Don't make
> them regret it!!

You do not quite understand the purpose of a NG, do you?

This is the same attitude the CPR diehards had. "Oh, shut up! You are
ruining the game for us..."

l8er
ronny

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       '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)            screaming their heads off!

Chris Roger

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Chris Roger » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

An arcade racer?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  Are you on crack?  This is buy far the MOST
realistic racing sim EVER!  You obviously have very little knowledge of how a
motor vehicle handles and how to race one.  I can't blast you for stating an
opinion but I can sure tell you how warped your sense of perception and reality
is!
  Chris


> It's an arcade racer....but a very good arcade racer, and probably one I
> will buy.  Unfortuantely, there are many, many people who seem to believe
> the same way.  It is a VERY GOOD arcade racing game.  Probably the best
> ever!  Great job Papy!  Extremely fun game so far!




> them!!

> >I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL. if  you do not like
> GPL
> >keep it to your self, so you don't messit up for the rest of us. We are
> luckey
> >Mike and the boys let us preview this milestone of a game, Please Don't
> make
> >them regret it!!

> >-Mark

Mick

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Mick » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00



>I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL.

Is this some kind of GPL/Papyrus worship cult? It seems so. Infidels
shall die.
For what it's worth, I like the demo even though the Sierra installer
is so crappy, but I do not think this demo just made all the other
sims obsolete, frankly I don't think the full game will do that
either. Yet a few people have claimed so. It will probably be among
the very finest racing sims (remember, too early to tell because this
is only a pre-alpha demo as we have heard countless times already :)),
but that's all there is to it.

But I don't think GPL is an arcade racer either like some GPL bashers
have repeatedly said.

Jo

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Jo » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


>Fair's fair, pally!
>I also like the "demo", for what it is, but, by the same token, those who find
>something objectionable about it have as much right to express it here as you or I
>have!!

Furthermore, that is specifically what Papyrus wants - the purpose of
releasing the early demo was to get feedback on the new physics model.

Joe

Michael E. Carve

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Michael E. Carve » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


% Everyone has an opinion.
% Thats what these NG's are for.
% To Bad.

% For the record GPL feels like ICR2...A skating rink.
% Im sure those cars handled bad..but not like this.

% My old shitty Camaro handled better!

The more I play with GPL, the more I think that people who are
complaining about the cars handling like a "skating rink" are being
affected by the slow frame rate.   The slower the frame rate the harder
it is to control.  Even with my PII 300 and my Rendtion Intense 100 (aka
Reactor), I need to use one of the lower resolutions.  I've also removed
the arms and wheel.  While they do a good job of "filling" the space in
the empty tub between my wheel and the screen, I've found that I can
actually "sense" the movement of the 3d***pit better without the arms.
With the arms my eye misses the nuances of the shifting 3d tub.  I have
found that I can control the beast better without a second pair of
hands.  I also get a slightly better frame rate.

Hopefully Papy has greatly optimized the graphics engine since the
build of this demo.  We are certainly going to need it once we start
adding other cars.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Michael E. Carve

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Michael E. Carve » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


% >

% >
% > I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL. if  you do not like GPL
% > keep it to your self, so you don't messit up for the rest of us. We are luckey
% > Mike and the boys let us preview this milestone of a game, Please Don't make
% > them regret it!!

% You do not quite understand the purpose of a NG, do you?

The purpose of this newsgroup is not to feed Trolls.  And that is
exactly what the post he is referring to is, a Troll.  There is no way
anyone in their right mind could honestly say that GPL is an arcade
racer.  So as it stands, we are just feeding a Troll by continuing this
thread.

% This is the same attitude the CPR diehards had. "Oh, shut up! You are
% ruining the game for us..."

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Ronald Stoe

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Ronald Stoe » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00




> % >

> % >
> % > I will not tollerate any more negative post about GPL. if  you do not like GPL
> % > keep it to your self, so you don't messit up for the rest of us. We are luckey
> % > Mike and the boys let us preview this milestone of a game, Please Don't make
> % > them regret it!!

> % You do not quite understand the purpose of a NG, do you?

> The purpose of this newsgroup is not to feed Trolls.  And that is
> exactly what the post he is referring to is, a Troll.  There is no way
> anyone in their right mind could honestly say that GPL is an arcade
> racer.  So as it stands, we are just feeding a Troll by continuing this
> thread.

Sorry, Michael! He wasn't fending of one or more Trolls. He demands that
nobody
posts anything negative about GPL... that's different, and nonsense.

Of course, I have no intention of defending trolls... ;^)

l8er
ronny

--
How to get rid of censorship in German game releases
<http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm>

          |\      _,,,---,,_        I want to die like my Grandfather,
   ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_              in his sleep.
        |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'     Not like the people in his car,
       '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)            screaming their heads off!

Cossi

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Cossi » Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:00

how do i take out the arm?




>% Everyone has an opinion.
>% Thats what these NG's are for.
>% To Bad.

>% For the record GPL feels like ICR2...A skating rink.
>% Im sure those cars handled bad..but not like this.

>% My old shitty Camaro handled better!

>The more I play with GPL, the more I think that people who are
>complaining about the cars handling like a "skating rink" are being
>affected by the slow frame rate.   The slower the frame rate the harder
>it is to control.  Even with my PII 300 and my Rendtion Intense 100 (aka
>Reactor), I need to use one of the lower resolutions.  I've also removed
>the arms and wheel.  While they do a good job of "filling" the space in
>the empty tub between my wheel and the screen, I've found that I can
>actually "sense" the movement of the 3d***pit better without the arms.
>With the arms my eye misses the nuances of the shifting 3d tub.  I have
>found that I can control the beast better without a second pair of
>hands.  I also get a slightly better frame rate.

>Hopefully Papy has greatly optimized the graphics engine since the
>build of this demo.  We are certainly going to need it once we start
>adding other cars.

>--
>**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Patrick Gilmor

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Patrick Gilmor » Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:00

 Even with my PII 300 and my Rendtion Intense 100 (aka

Sounds like you have some kind of hardware problem there if you aren't
getting a top notch frame rate with that system. I am running an P166 (non
mmx) chip with a Reactor vidcard and have great frame rates even at the
higher resolution. Admittedly the frame rate gets kind of crappy when I am
on fire or doing off track gyrations, but whilst driving things are quite
smooth. I would think a PII300 would completely blow away my system in this
respect.

Patrick Gilmore

Michael E. Carve

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Michael E. Carve » Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:00


%  Even with my PII 300 and my Rendtion Intense 100 (aka
% >Reactor), I need to use one of the lower resolutions.  I've also removed
% >the arms and wheel.  While they do a good job of "filling" the space in
% >the empty tub between my wheel and the screen, I've found that I can
% >actually "sense" the movement of the 3d***pit better without the arms.

% Sounds like you have some kind of hardware problem there if you aren't
% getting a top notch frame rate with that system. I am running an P166 (non
% mmx) chip with a Reactor vidcard and have great frame rates even at the
% higher resolution. Admittedly the frame rate gets kind of crappy when I am
% on fire or doing off track gyrations, but whilst driving things are quite
% smooth. I would think a PII300 would completely blow away my system in this
% respect.

Oh, the graphics are smooth.  There is only a chop coming through the
last turn and at about one other point on the track.  However, I would
guestimate the frame rate to be in the low 20's and it definitely drops
below that in some of the turns.  But, then I am used to the frame rate
in ICR2 and NASCAR2 with the -4 switch in DMA mode.  The frame rate in
the GPL demo isn't near 30 fps for me.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Michael E. Carve

D@amit GPL is not a arcade, It is a sim for the bigboys who can drive them!!

by Michael E. Carve » Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:00


% how do i take out the arm?

Well one way to take it out is to press the space bar. ;-)

Check the Options Setup screen for Graphics, there should be a couple of
check boxes related to the "driver", uncheck them.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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