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by **Pat Dotso** » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00

> > So, one CAN hang it out and slide around, but if one filmed top
> > drivers in that same section (to show later on SpeedVision), you would
> > see drivers applying rapid small corrections and never getting to 20
> > degrees of yaw and full opposite lock.

> Hello Jim. OK then, I wonder if the guys who are doing the fast laps
> in the demo are able to drive without breaking the tail loose and then holding
> on to opposite lock. I'm fine with knowing it was 'all just me' if these
> people can drive fast laps without*** the back out. In fact it would be
> a relief!

I've _only_ gone 1:07.76, but I can tell you that sliding all the way
around a turn in GPL is not the fast way around the track. Most of
the sideways driving that I do is caused from entering the corner
too fast. I try to get the car straightened up as soon as possible
though.

--
Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports

by **Antoine Renau** » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00

On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:30:25 -0700, Pat Dotson

>I've _only_ gone 1:07.76, but I can tell you that sliding all the way
>around a turn in GPL is not the fast way around the track. Most of
>the sideways driving that I do is caused from entering the corner
>too fast. I try to get the car straightened up as soon as possible
>though.

Yeah that's fast but you guys still have to prove that it's even
faster when the car's not sliding! I think whoever complained about
this in the first place isn't completely wrong... But then it's only
a pre-alpha, so this may have improved since then!

A. Renault

by **Richard Walk** » Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:00:00

> Hello Jim. OK then, I wonder if the guys who are doing the fast laps
>in the demo are able to drive without breaking the tail loose and then holding
>on to opposite lock. I'm fine with knowing it was 'all just me' if these
>people can drive fast laps without*** the back out. In fact it would be
>a relief!

If you've seen my other response to (I think) your good self, you'll see
that I consider the hotlaps posted on the Apex site to be seriously (even
dangerously) overdriving the car. That's OK for hotlapping but ***for
anything else.

FWIW my best lap is a 1:07.39 and (to me at least <g>) does not use the
powerslide technique and certainly uses no opposite lock (just a touch of
correction entering turns 4 and 6 and a bigger correction in the middle
of T4 but never any OL). I can lap reasonably consistently in the high
1:07s / low 1:08s and am not trying for especially quick laps, just
trying to keep things neat and tidy - and after a while the lap times
start dropping and continue dropping. I'm pretty damn sure there's enough
left by being tidy to beat the current 1:06.9x posted at the Apex.

btw - if you want to see the replay of that lap, just let me know and
I'll email it to you.

Cheers,
Richard

by **Byron Forbe** » Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:00:00

> Hello Jim. OK then, I wonder if the guys who are doing the fast laps
> in the demo are able to drive without breaking the tail loose and then holding
> on to opposite lock. I'm fine with knowing it was 'all just me' if these
> people can drive fast laps without*** the back out. In fact it would be
> a relief!

Gee, go here and get 1.06s and 1.07s on replay.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

rec.autos.simulators

opposite-lock was applied in 'bursts' ,not in a continuous 'hold' (in 67')

opposite-lock was applied in 'bursts' ,not in a continuous 'hold' (in 67')

opposite-lock was applied in 'bursts' ,not in a continuous 'hold' (in 67')

opposite-lock was applied in 'bursts' ,not in a continuous 'hold' (in 67')

opposite-lock was applied in 'bursts' ,not in a continuous 'hold' (in 67')