rec.autos.simulators

Upgrading for games...NROS & GPL specifically

MindSpring Use

Upgrading for games...NROS & GPL specifically

by MindSpring Use » Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:00:00

I currently have P200 (classic) w/ 64 ram running 66mhz bus/clock speed, a
Rendition V1000 and a 3d Vodoo2 (12mb) video cards, soundblaster 32, 12
speed CD, 56K modem.  I don't have a lot of money to spend at this time.
Where should I start?  The Intel P2 processors are so expensive.  Should I
go with a Celeron 333A or a AMD 3d now?  Will I be unhappy with these in the
long run?  I think I can get 128 PC100 SDRAM with a AMD 3D NOW and MB for
about $450.  Should I go this route?  I'd hate to spend $4-500 and not be
happy in 4-5 months.
Thanks,
Gary
Mark

Upgrading for games...NROS & GPL specifically

by Mark » Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Gary, Abit BH6 mobo ($100) and a Celeron 300A.  You'll also have
to get an ATX case.  If your current RAM is SDRAM then you can
plug it right in.  All your other stuff should work as well.  You
should be happy in 4-5 months.  With some extra fans -- and the
BH6 mobo -- the Celeron 300A will probably do 450 with no
problem.  The retail boxed Malaysian version of the Celeron would
be your best bet.

Celeron 333A will not overclock as well, and as in the past
nobody (game manufacturers) is really coding for the AMD chips.
Sad but true.

My BH6/Celeron 300A (at 450)/Banshee PCI gets 36 FPS in GPL at
1024 x 768, most grafx options on.  30 FPS at the back of the
grid on start.  Happy? <g>   Same setup with my Voodoo 1
(pre-Banshee) got 25 FPS, same res and same grafx options.

If you have SDRAM now (even PC-66 stuff) you're looking at about
$300 max for the mobo, CPU, and case.  Plus/minus another $20 for
some extra fans to keep things cool (highly recommended).

Rgds,
Mark R.
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:54:38 -0500, "MindSpring User"


>I currently have P200 (classic) w/ 64 ram running 66mhz bus/clock speed, a
>Rendition V1000 and a 3d Vodoo2 (12mb) video cards, soundblaster 32, 12
>speed CD, 56K modem.  I don't have a lot of money to spend at this time.
>Where should I start?  The Intel P2 processors are so expensive.  Should I
>go with a Celeron 333A or a AMD 3d now?  Will I be unhappy with these in the
>long run?  I think I can get 128 PC100 SDRAM with a AMD 3D NOW and MB for
>about $450.  Should I go this route?  I'd hate to spend $4-500 and not be
>happy in 4-5 months.
>Thanks,
>Gary

MeatWate

Upgrading for games...NROS & GPL specifically

by MeatWate » Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:00:00

If you're into simming, forget anything but an Intel processor. A Celeron
300a overclocked to 400MHz will suit you very well.


John Moor

Upgrading for games...NROS & GPL specifically

by John Moor » Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:00:00

I was exactly where you are several months ago. Your mb is a socket seven and
the fastest intel cpu that will fit is a 233-not worth it, the fastest viable
cpu for your mb is an amd k6-333- this would be way better but not what you
really want, btw a k6 2 is no benefit without a super seven board so if your'e
putting in a new motherboard then.. Get an abit bh6 or bx6, either is overclock
friendly and done in software at bootup-very easy, put in a celeron 300A and run
it at the standard bus speed of 66mhz for a few days for burnin, then up the bus
to 75 ( 338 cpu) then 83 (374cpu) then 100(450cpu!), take it slow and if your
system becomes unstable and locks or freezes or whatever back off for more
burnin time AND increase your cpu voltage from the standard 2.0v to 2.05, 2.10
etc up to 2.2, Iv'e heard of as much as 2.4 but...  You will be very happy with
the performance although you may want to include 128meg new pc100 ram and a full
voodoo2 video card. A lot of hard core sim drivers and GPL veterans are running
this at 374 and it works very well. For the best prices check pricewatch.com,
the mb,cpu, and ram will run you under $500

> I currently have P200 (classic) w/ 64 ram running 66mhz bus/clock speed, a
> Rendition V1000 and a 3d Vodoo2 (12mb) video cards, soundblaster 32, 12
> speed CD, 56K modem.  I don't have a lot of money to spend at this time.
> Where should I start?  The Intel P2 processors are so expensive.  Should I
> go with a Celeron 333A or a AMD 3d now?  Will I be unhappy with these in the
> long run?  I think I can get 128 PC100 SDRAM with a AMD 3D NOW and MB for
> about $450.  Should I go this route?  I'd hate to spend $4-500 and not be
> happy in 4-5 months.
> Thanks,
> Gary


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