rec.autos.simulators

> -Tim

> P.S. - Time to start playing Miner 2049er again.

> > Minor correction, great movies become classics, many others fall by the
> > wayside.

> > When Lawrence first mixed things up in the desert, filmmaking was
already
> > quite a few decades old. The home computer industry as a whole is still
in
> a
> > relative infancy. The two shouldn't really be compared. Once you are
> > comparing a classic game that comes out 50-60 years after Space Invaders
> > with one that comes out 80-100 years after, things might be different.

> > > The consumer mind set for software is "newer is better"
> > > on the other hand movies become "classics"

> > > >     It just occured to me that as time passes, the price of computer
> > > > software falls off whereas old DVD Movies cost as much as a new
> release.
> > > >     A good example is a racing sim by a company named Papyrus -
Grand
> > Prix
> > > > Legends. This is possibly the best piece of software code outside of
> > NASA,
> > > > costing around $70 when released here in Australia in 1998.

> > ok,

> > Maybe its because, i don't know, it costs millions and millions of
> > dollars to make a film?   Lawrence would be a $100+ million film if it
> > were made today.  Maybe its because you have to pay residuals, points,
> > etc... to people involved in films, including all the big name stars?
> > Maybe its because investors have actually put up millions of dollars
> > and expect some kind of return on their investment?  Maybe its
> > because, as others have pointed out, the staying power of films vs.
> > computer games?  No one is gonna be playing GPL (or any other current
> > game for that matter) in 40 years.   Maybe its the distribution costs
> > associated with getting that product out?   You can go into just about
> > any audio/video store and get a copy of Lawrence.  You can't say the
> > same about any computer game except maybe "The Sims."

>   A movie has a huge depreciation factor after it's first viewing! A good
> computer game yields endless hours of entertainment, and can even get
better
> with time! Also, why you think the box office and follow up rentals aren't
a
> good enough return I don't know!

> > I'll grant you that the reproducion costs are minimal compared to the
> > cost of the product, but trying to understand the different pricing
> > structures of DVD movies vs. computer games is not rocket science.

>    True, it's a simple study in greed! Not what you suggest.

> PS - are you a movie producer bozo?

> > I have one Mini-Series that I will probably never tire of watching.
Band
> Of
> > Brothers.  IMHO, this is the best war movie, series, tv show, whatever
you
> > want to call it that has ever been produced.

> > -Larry

> While I certainly agree with you in principle, there is one hitch that
keeps
> older games from being feasible.  They simply cannot be run in a lot of
> cases.

> One example, and it's not even near 10 years old.  Take Indy Car Racing II
> and try to get it up and running on a current-day Windows XP machine.
While
> it may be possible (though I think sound is a deal-breaker), what you
would
> have to go through to get it done would really suck.  Ditto for Soda
Offroad
> Racing.  I have both of these and would LOVE to run them, but it just
isn't
> going to happen.

> -Larry

> > "A movie has a huge depreciation factor after it's first viewing! A good
> > computer game yields endless hours of entertainment, and can even get
> better
> > with time!"

> > You are joking right? Are you sure you didn't get the word "movie" and
> > "video game" accidentally mixed up in that sentence? :)

> > 10 years from now, tons of people are still going to be going NUTS over
> > "Lord of The Rings". By then, nobody will remember what the hell "Max
> Payne"
> > is, or care to load it up on their homesupercomputers. That is, if CD
ROM
> > drives are even around anymore...

> > How many 10 year old videogames are on the shelves now? How many 10 year
> old
> > movies are on the shelves now?

> > Mike
> > http://mikebeauchamp.com

> > I have one Mini-Series that I will probably never tire of watching.
Band
> Of
> > Brothers.  IMHO, this is the best war movie, series, tv show, whatever
you
> > want to call it that has ever been produced.

> > -Larry

> If the industry thought releasing "Soda Offroad Racing" was profitable
> still, then they'd tweak it for 20 minutes to get it to run in XP with DX
> and make a killing off of it. Just like movie industry makes tons of cash
by
> releasing oldermovies like "Scarface" on DVD. But that's not the case...
> Nobody cares about "Soda", and nobody is gonna pay money for it. Not with
> good new games on the shelf.

> PS. I'm also a huge fan of Soda, I thought it was a great game. Indy II as
> well!!

> Mike
> http://mikebeauchamp.com

> > Mike,

> > While I certainly agree with you in principle, there is one hitch that
> keeps
> > older games from being feasible.  They simply cannot be run in a lot of
> > cases.

> > One example, and it's not even near 10 years old.  Take Indy Car Racing
II
> > and try to get it up and running on a current-day Windows XP machine.
> While
> > it may be possible (though I think sound is a deal-breaker), what you
> would
> > have to go through to get it done would really suck.  Ditto for Soda
> Offroad
> > Racing.  I have both of these and would LOVE to run them, but it just
> isn't
> > going to happen.

> > -Larry

> > > "A movie has a huge depreciation factor after it's first viewing! A
good
> > > computer game yields endless hours of entertainment, and can even get
> > better
> > > with time!"

> > > You are joking right? Are you sure you didn't get the word "movie" and
> > > "video game" accidentally mixed up in that sentence? :)

> > > 10 years from now, tons of people are still going to be going NUTS
over
> > > "Lord of The Rings". By then, nobody will remember what the hell "Max
> > Payne"
> > > is, or care to load it up on their homesupercomputers. That is, if CD
> ROM
> > > drives are even around anymore...

> > > How many 10 year old videogames are on the shelves now? How many 10
year
> > old
> > > movies are on the shelves now?

> > > Mike
> > > http://mikebeauchamp.com

> >WHY?  (ie why does software taper off but not DVDs?)

> Not all.  Last time I checked, The Sims was still selling at $39 or
$49(can't
> remember which).

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> Not all.  Last time I checked, The Sims was still selling at $39 or
$49(can't
> remember which).