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Under 9:00 at the Ring...*so* close...

Eldre

Under 9:00 at the Ring...*so* close...

by Eldre » Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:00:00

ARGH!  I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring.  I just
finished a 5-lap block.  My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35,
9:11.03.  I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'.  I honestly thought my last
lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last
one.<sigh...>

Eldred
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rik anthra

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by rik anthra » Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Whatcha drivin Eldred?? I switched to the sLotus from the Ferrari and went
from 9:18 to a 8:52.
BTW- I used to have a press pass for Tiger Stadium back in 82-84. I moved to
Texas the summer before we won the series. :(
Rik

David Butte

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by David Butte » Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:00:00


Oh, I feel for you, I really do! I was stuck in the 9:0x bracket for a
while too. Eventually, I gave up with the Lotus and switched to the
Ferrari. Result - 8:58!

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: +39.92)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Don Scurlo

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by Don Scurlo » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00



Eldred, my man, you are starting to kick butt! How long ago was it
you couldn't get under 11 minutes? The answer you seek is hidden in
your question. Slow it down just a little and eliminate those spins,
get smooth, maximize your speed on the fast bits, and as you've
learned, MORE LAPS.

Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.
GPLRank -1.90

Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site
http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

Eldre

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by Eldre » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


writes:



>>ARGH!  I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring.
>>I just finished a 5-lap block.  My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52,
>>9:01.36, 9:14.35, 9:11.03.  I just CAN'T seem to break the
>>'barrier'.  I honestly thought my last lap was good - I had 3 quick
>>spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last one.<sigh...>

>Eldred, my man, you are starting to kick butt! How long ago was it
>you couldn't get under 11 minutes? The answer you seek is hidden in
>your question. Slow it down just a little and eliminate those spins,
>get smooth, maximize your speed on the fast bits, and as you've
>learned, MORE LAPS.

I've run more laps at the Ring since GPL Rank started than I had in the whole
time I've owned the game...  Although I don't exactly consider 9:00-9:15 as
kicking butt.  In my league race, pole was 8:24.  My qual. was 9:28.  Everybody
basically checked out at the start.  I just drove around admiring the
scenery... :)
If I could do consistent 8:30's or so, I'd be happy.

Eldred
--
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00



>Whatcha drivin Eldred?? I switched to the sLotus from the Ferrari and went
>from 9:18 to a 8:52.
>BTW- I used to have a press pass for Tiger Stadium back in 82-84. I moved to
>Texas the summer before we won the series. :(
>Rik


>> ARGH!  I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring.  I
>just
>> finished a 5-lap block.  My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35,
>> 9:11.03.  I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'.  I honestly thought my
>last
>> lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the
>last
>> one.<sigh...>

>> Eldred

Ferrari.  I ran a 9:30 and 9:20 in a Cooper league race yesterday.  It took me
a while to get used to the Ferrari again...

Press pass?  What publication did you work for?  That sounds pretty cool...
You just left too soon...<g>

Eldred
--
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Uncle Feste

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by Uncle Feste » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


> ARGH!  I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring.  I just
> finished a 5-lap block.  My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35,
> 9:11.03.  I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'.  I honestly thought my last
> lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last
> one.<sigh...>

Damn you!!!  Weren't you playing ReVolt or something? <g>

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Don Scurlo

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by Don Scurlo » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


ct.aol.com>:


>writes:
>>Eldred, my man, you are starting to kick butt! How long ago was it
>>you couldn't get under 11 minutes? The answer you seek is hidden in
>>your question. Slow it down just a little and eliminate those spins,
>>get smooth, maximize your speed on the fast bits, and as you've
>>learned, MORE LAPS.

>I've run more laps at the Ring since GPL Rank started than I had in the whole
>time I've owned the game...

Your making up for your delinquent past, and look at the result, it works.

Well, I said "starting" ;-)

It's not that much different for me in the league I'm in. It's been infiltrated
by aliens(their everywhere). I have little hope of a podium finish much less a
win. But that's ok, just like in real life, a few guys do most of the winning.
There's good racing at the back of the pack, and as long as I'm racing someone,
and I feel I'm driving well, then it's fun, and the posistion doesn't matter
much.

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.
GPLRank -1.90

Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site
http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I know the feeling, my sentiments exactly.

Jan./GPLRank of about +35s
=---

Ken MacKa

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by Ken MacKa » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


> ARGH!  I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring.  I just
> finished a 5-lap block.  My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35,
> 9:11.03.  I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'.  I honestly thought my last
> lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the last
> one.<sigh...>

> Eldred
> --
> Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> GPL hcp. +70.45

> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
> with experience...
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Wow!  You've got to believe that sub 9 is in your near future; just a week ago you
were wondering how you managed a 9:16 lap and those lap five laps were all under
that. You're almost there and you still having a few spins. You must have really
picked up the pace in some (if not all of the sections).

At this rate you'll be asking how to get below 8:30 in a few weeks.

best of luck

Ken MacKay
Halifax, Canada
GPL Handicap +111.61

Eldre

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by Eldre » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00



>Wow!  You've got to believe that sub 9 is in your near future; just a week
>ago you
>were wondering how you managed a 9:16 lap and those lap five laps were all
>under
>that. You're almost there and you still having a few spins. You must have
>really
>picked up the pace in some (if not all of the sections).

>At this rate you'll be asking how to get below 8:30 in a few weeks.

Hopefully<g>

Yes, I do believe I can go under 9 minutes.  I just have to keep from screwing
up...  8:30?  That I'm not so sure of(yet).
I'll let you know in another 50 laps... :)
Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


writes:

Hehe...I'm not even THAT good.  In my league races, and my other VROC races, I
usually end up running around by myself.  I see other cars only when the
leaders come up to lap me.  I can count the number of times when I was actually
RACING someone on one hand... :(

Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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with experience...
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00


writes:


>> ARGH!  I've probably run about 30-40 laps this weekend at the Ring.  I just
>> finished a 5-lap block.  My times were:9:00.60, 9:14.52, 9:01.36, 9:14.35,
>> 9:11.03.  I just CAN'T seem to break the 'barrier'.  I honestly thought my
>last
>> lap was good - I had 3 quick spins in the 9:01 lap, and just one in the
>last
>> one.<sigh...>

>Damn you!!!  Weren't you playing ReVolt or something? <g>

I haven't gotten back to Best Buy yet.  Actually, I had forgotten about
it...<g>  Although I *did* waste about an hour last night playing Dirt Track
Racing.  On the Amateur setting, I'm unbeaten...

Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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Peter Ive

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by Peter Ive » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00




>(Don Scurlock)
>writes:

>>>In my league race, pole was 8:24.  My qual. was 9:28.  Everybody
>>>basically checked out at the start.  I just drove around admiring the
>>>scenery... :)
>>>If I could do consistent 8:30's or so, I'd be happy.

>>It's not that much different for me in the league I'm in. It's been
>>infiltrated
>>by aliens(their everywhere). I have little hope of a podium finish much less
>>a
>>win. But that's ok, just like in real life, a few guys do most of the
>>winning.
>>There's good racing at the back of the pack, and as long as I'm racing
>>someone,
>>and I feel I'm driving well, then it's fun, and the posistion doesn't matter
>>much.

>Hehe...I'm not even THAT good.  In my league races, and my other VROC
>races, I
>usually end up running around by myself.  I see other cars only when the
>leaders come up to lap me.  I can count the number of times when I was
>actually
>RACING someone on one hand... :(

>Eldred

I'm not sure if this would work, but I've thought of a way of making
league racing more even.   What each player needs to do is list the
order of preference for the cars according to how quick they are/reckon
they could be in them.  So in my case it would be something like:

Lotus
Eagle
Ferrari
Brabham
Coventry/Cooper
Murasama/Honda
BRM

Each driver is then allowed to start the season in their favourite
chassis but, depending on the race results, the car they have to drive
next time around will change in the following way.

1st or 2nd - drop 3 marques
3rd or 4th - drop 2 marques
5th or 6th - drop 1 marque
Outside the top 6 then move up a marque

So, if I were to finish in the top 6 in the Lotus then in the next race
I would drive either the Eagle, Ferrari or Brabham.  Let's say I
finished 3rd so that in the next race I am in the Ferrari for the 2nd
race.  If I now finish 3rd again in this race then I would drop 2
further marques down to the Coventry/Cooper.  If, however I finished
outside the top 6 in the 2nd race then I would move back up 1 marque to
the Eagle.  Get the idea?

Perhaps, in this way, there could be league races where everyone could
be competitive.  It would take more paperwork, but perhaps it could
work?

--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Don Scurlo

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by Don Scurlo » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00

There's certainly logic to it Peter, and a similar system is used in real
racing today where if you win you get weight added for the next race to slow
you down. But in gpl the difference between cars is small compared to the
difference between drivers. In my league the fastest guys last year were all
put in BRM's for this year, and they are still way faster than most. It helps
some, but not enough to even the field.



--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.
GPLRank -1.90

Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site
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