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GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

Mitch_

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Mitch_ » Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:03:28

Not sure about your rig but Ive got plenty of spare IDE ports available.
Keep the old drive and dedicate it to a specific game and you solve the
inconvenience.  As cheap as CD/DVD drives are why not?  The only concern
might be your Power Supply but most here likely already have spare watts.

Mitch


Dave Er

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Dave Er » Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:16:29

Everytime I swap a disc I think back to some of those multidisc CD drives.
Maybe something like a DVD jukebox that mounts up in  a couple of drive bays
and holds 1/2 dozen discs. Pretty sure I wouldn't be playing anymore than
that even on a casual basis. Tidy, keeps the jelly donut fingerprints off
them and safly tucked away from children and pets. Heck, I;d even pay
Microsoft for that :)

Dave E


> Not sure about your rig but Ive got plenty of spare IDE ports available.
> Keep the old drive and dedicate it to a specific game and you solve the
> inconvenience.  As cheap as CD/DVD drives are why not?  The only concern
> might be your Power Supply but most here likely already have spare watts.

> Mitch


>> I've got a dodgy old DVD drive in my racing rig - I guess I should get
>> around to replacing it but even then it is fairly inconvenient to get at
>> to swap discs, so for me right now a net authorisation would be dead
>> convenient. Fair points though. Like I said I'll tolerate either.

>> Cheers
>> Tony

Larr

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Larr » Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:12:20

I do have HL2, but I don't like the Steam concept either.

The same could be said about the billions being spent by consumers on music
downloads.  What if one of those music sites goes out of business?

For this very reason I only use subscription services (currently Yahoo).  $5
a month for all I want.  If they go under, I have no loss.

I know people that have spent thousands downloading music and have no idea
they really own _nothing_.

I'd rather pay a fixed small fee and own nothing than to risk that.  If I
want to own it, I'll buy it on CD.

And who knows if Microsoft will ever pull XP activation to force Vista
upgrades.  They _do_ have the capability to do that.

-Larry


Larr

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Larr » Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:47:34

To be honest, I love iTunes.  I just don't buy _any more_ music there.  In
the past I've bought 242 tracks.  $242 worth.  I love it because I didn't
have to buy complete CD's for the single-songs I liked.  This is what I DO
like about iTunes.

All of those have been, um, 'cleaned' :)

That doesn't work any more since iTunes 6 (unless the author fixed it).

If Apple were to offer an all-you-can eat subscription service for $10 a
month, and include ALL content on iTunes, I'd be there in a heartbeat.  I
really don't like the software side of Yahoo, but it's the best deal right
now.

I also did the burn and rip method until I, um, fixed them.  They do sound
better in native AAC format I think.

I use Windows Media Lossless for my entire library on the server, then use
something else to rip those down to whatever I want for the portable
players, etc...

If MS ever had the Balls to discontinue activation for XP, the fallout would
be immense, and I have no doubt the lawsuits would be flying like we've
never seen before.  It would be mighty ugly.

-Larry


Harr

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Harr » Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:27:40

I would disagree with that. Mitch.  SF is implemented as a driver
which is installed on your system when you first run the game.  Due to
the low level at which a driver interfaces with the operating system,
it is quite likely to be broken by changes.

In fact, this has already happened with GTR, it can't be used with 64
bit XP because GTR's version of SF is 32 bit  and, unless Simbin
release an upgrade, it won't be useable under the 64 bit version of
Vista when it arrives.

If you were able simply to download an upgraded SF driver to be
compatible with your new operating system, this wouldn't be a big
problem either, as long as SF stays in business.  But you can't.  The
game's developer has to release a patch to provide the new version .
If they aren't interested in doing that, you're screwed.

In a nutshell, your confidence that you will always be able to use a
SF protected game is misplaced.

Peter



>What will happen if/when the Steam authorization servers are taken down?
>SOL?

>I saw a nonsensical post above about "not owning" a SF encrypted game but
>the reality is you will always be able to use it as long as you take care of
>the CD/DVD.  Big difference IMO.

>I prefer SF over Steam anyway.  At least the ball is in YOUR court and not
>reliant on some company that may or may not be here in the coming years.

>Mitch


>> There is a similar anti feeling against Steam, such that there is an
>> online petition against it:

>> http://www.petitiononline.com/ds9d7896/petition.html

>> Personally I ignore it all and have Half Life2 complete with Steam and GT
>> Legends complete with Starforce. I haven't had any issues with either. I
>> prefer the Steam approach but either way I wouldn't let it stand in
>> between deciding whether to buy a racing sim or not.

>> Cheers
>> Tony

Mitch_

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Mitch_ » Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:12:21

Starforce DOES upgrade it's software.  The Starforce update tool is out
there somewhere.

To a certain extent I agree with what you say but it's really not any
different from someone running an old game.  It may or may not work
depending upon OS/hardware.  If you have the hardware/OS that matches said
game it will still work just as Starforce will continue to work forever if
you keep everything the same.

Am I making a guarantee Sf will work with anything beyond what we have
todya?  No, just as we can't expect my 3gig P4 to run Bill Elliott's Nascar
Challenge :)

Mitch


Harr

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Harr » Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:17:18



Starforce do, but the change from 32 to 64 bit requires the game
developers to release a patch.

See this post in the Starforce forum

http://www.star-force.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=362&view=findp...

Peter

Peasan

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Peasan » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:32:05


> Sounds great but unfortunately nobody has ever managed to make a no-CD for a
> Starforce3 game protected with the maximum level of protection.  Feel free
> to be the first - I'm sure you'll be hailed as a cracking legend!

Please go and post in the wargame newsgroup. I've been telling them the
same thing and they seem to think using a virtual drive is the same
thing as a *crack*.
Peasan

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Peasan » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:34:39


> What will happen if/when the Steam authorization servers are taken down?
> SOL?

> I saw a nonsensical post above about "not owning" a SF encrypted game but
> the reality is you will always be able to use it as long as you take care of
> the CD/DVD.  Big difference IMO.

> I prefer SF over Steam anyway.  At least the ball is in YOUR court and not
> reliant on some company that may or may not be here in the coming years.

> Mitch

Troll alert!
Peasan

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Peasan » Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:40:05


> Starforce DOES upgrade it's software.  The Starforce update tool is out
> there somewhere.

Yea, they upgrade it to make it harder to crack, you dumbass troll!
Mitch_

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Mitch_ » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:46:25

Go back to the hole from which you crawled LOSER!

Never a KILLFILE will do, Bah-Bye...


Mitch_

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Mitch_ » Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:47:38

Retard alert
Peasan

GT Legends - Any way to play without using the CD?

by Peasan » Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:11:13


> Retard alert

Nah, a retard is when you are in the 1% of consumers who actually thinks
Starforce is a good idea. Wake up Mitchy-baby!

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