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Best GPL times on a ... keyboard?

Coli

Best GPL times on a ... keyboard?

by Coli » Wed, 12 Apr 2000 04:00:00

No it's not pure nonsense.
I bought GP2 the day it came out and followed the fastest lap for the 1
year+ that I played it.
Agreed, maybe now it's different, but back then the fastest laps WERE done
using the keyboard.
And no I'm not talking about F1GP.
Read posts more carefully before launching headlong at someone else.  Very
bad form.
...Colin
Dave Powel

Best GPL times on a ... keyboard?

by Dave Powel » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I used to play GP2 with a keyboard and then changed to wheel once i got a
wheel i beat all the qual records at every track...Not something i could do
on keyboard..the wheel was indeed 2-3 secs a lap faster..

>No it's not pure nonsense.
>I bought GP2 the day it came out and followed the fastest lap for the 1
>year+ that I played it.
>Agreed, maybe now it's different, but back then the fastest laps WERE done
>using the keyboard.
>And no I'm not talking about F1GP.
>Read posts more carefully before launching headlong at someone else.  Very
>bad form.
>...Colin

>> This is pure NONSENSE. You are talking about F1GP. In GP2, excellent
>> wheel drivers are 2-3s faster than excellent keyboard drivers. Period.
>> Any hotlap league out there can give you the facts.

>> JoH

Jo Hels

Best GPL times on a ... keyboard?

by Jo Hels » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:37:21 -0400, "Colin" <colin AT yourmiata DOT


>No it's not pure nonsense.
>I bought GP2 the day it came out and followed the fastest lap for the 1
>year+ that I played it.
>Agreed, maybe now it's different, but back then the fastest laps WERE done
>using the keyboard.
>And no I'm not talking about F1GP.
>Read posts more carefully before launching headlong at someone else.  Very
>bad form.

So how the hell am I supposed to "misinterprete" your quote below:

"I remember the best lap times ever recorded in GP2 were done by guys
using the keyboard! Sad but true..."

First you are talking about "the best laptimes EVER recorded". Not
about beginner laptimes or early laptimes or anything

Then you try to tell us that this devaluates the sim qualities of GP2
so much (because keyboard players could do better than wheel drivers
and this is so unreal). Your REAL hidden agenda, of course.

I don't even believe for a second that keyboard drivers were faster at
the beginning. The HOF2, the hotlap competition that set the
standards, had wheel and joystick drivers at the top from the start.
You were just looking in the wrong places.

So the problem is NOT that I should read more carefully, I believe <G>

JoH

Coli

Best GPL times on a ... keyboard?

by Coli » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Eh?
I have never used the keyboard in GP2.  Never have, never will.
As someone who has a LWFF and TSW I don't feel the need =)
Even back then I used my trusty joystick!

I think you missed my point altogether.
My point was simply that when I was playing, the best times were set by guys
using the keyboard.  To which you responded that I was talking nonsense and
that it was not true and that I was talking about F1GP.  I then told you
that when I was playing it was indeed the case.

I can't really see how this translates into "Then you try to tell us that
this devaluates the sim qualities of GP2 so much" which of course is my
"REAL hidden agenda"

The truth is out there Mulder, you just need to know where to look...

Cheers,
...Colin


Jo Hels

Best GPL times on a ... keyboard?

by Jo Hels » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:26:55 -0400, "Colin" <colin AT yourmiata DOT


>Eh?

...

Well, your statement "when I was playing" certainly was much too
general here. In places where good keyboard drivers were driving
against good wheel drivers, wheel drivers have *ALWAYS* been
considerably faster, even at the start.

Do I have to repeat it again?  :-)

You said:
"I remember the best lap times ever recorded in GP2 were done by guys
using the keyboard! Sad but true..."

Why do you say "Sad but true....". I don't think there is another
interpretation than that you don't like the fact that a keyboard would
be faster than a wheel (which isn't true anyway of course). And which
reason is there not to like that fact? Can't be another reason than
that this spoils the "sim" qualities of the game for you. Why is it
"sad" otherwise???? Just tell us.

JoH

>The truth is out there Mulder, you just need to know where to look...

>Cheers,
>...Colin



>> Then you try to tell us that this devaluates the sim qualities of GP2
>> so much (because keyboard players could do better than wheel drivers
>> and this is so unreal). Your REAL hidden agenda, of course.

Coli

Best GPL times on a ... keyboard?

by Coli » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Jo,

This ramble has gone on long enough.

This is Ripley, first officer of the Nostromo, signing off.

Cheers,
...Colin


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