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GP3 framerate

Eldre

GP3 framerate

by Eldre » Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:33:12



>GP3 for some reason seems to actually use "single-chip" mode when you have
>it set to "normal" - so it's only using half the power of the V5, hence the
>horrid framerates.  But when you set the Anti-aliasing to 2x, which is
>normally of course 10-20% slower than "normal" - GP3 gets MUCH better FPS.
>Just go to the 3dfx icon in the taskbar, right click, bring up "3dfx Hub" -
>then "3dfx Anti Aliasing", and select "2 sample AA" for Direct3D.

>It seems that turning on 2x FSAA forces it to use both chips, so even with
>the bit of speed loss with FSAA it runs much better than just on the single
>chip - and looks better to boot.

>I recall getting 50% qualifying and sub-100% race PO ratings with most
>everything on, 1024x768, on my old Athlon 700 / Voodoo5 - so it should
>scream on the 1.3 Ghz.

I'm starting to wonder if deleting and re-installing like I did with N4 will
improve things.  I'll try the 2x Fsaa first, though.  Thanks.

Eldred
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Eldre

GP3 framerate

by Eldre » Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:23:18



>>I recall getting 50% qualifying and sub-100% race PO ratings with most
>>everything on, 1024x768, on my old Athlon 700 / Voodoo5 - so it should
>>scream on the 1.3 Ghz.

>I'm starting to wonder if deleting and re-installing like I did with N4 will
>improve things.  I'll try the 2x Fsaa first, though.  Thanks.

Well, it's not sub-100% in a race, but it's about 120%(At Brazil).  Sertainly
better than the 300% that I got before.  Problem is, I can't remember now what
resolution I was running at.  I had a friend come by yesterday while I was
testing, so I didn't finish. :(

Eldred
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rik anthra

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by rik anthra » Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:38:08




> >>I recall getting 50% qualifying and sub-100% race PO ratings with most
> >>everything on, 1024x768, on my old Athlon 700 / Voodoo5 - so it should
> >>scream on the 1.3 Ghz.

> >I'm starting to wonder if deleting and re-installing like I did with N4
will
> >improve things.  I'll try the 2x Fsaa first, though.  Thanks.

> Well, it's not sub-100% in a race, but it's about 120%(At Brazil).
Sertainly
> better than the 300% that I got before.  Problem is, I can't remember now
what
> resolution I was running at.  I had a friend come by yesterday while I was
> testing, so I didn't finish. :(

EP-
Also, dont use automatic graphics.....set them manually.
Eldre

GP3 framerate

by Eldre » Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:56:23



>Well, it's not sub-100% in a race, but it's about 120%(At Brazil).  Sertainly

"Sertainly"?!?  One of those days...<sigh>

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Eldre

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by Eldre » Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:56:22



>EP-
>Also, dont use automatic graphics.....set them manually.

Really?  Changing the graphics didn't help before I changed the FSAA, so I
didn't try it after.  Since it seemed better anyway, I let it go.  Hmm...

Eldred
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Thom j

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by Thom j » Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:09:50


| >Well, it's not sub-100% in a race, but it's about 120%(At Brazil).
Sertainly
|
| "Sertainly"?!?  One of those days...<sigh>
|
| Eldred
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mark jeangerar

GP3 framerate

by mark jeangerar » Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:12:10

Son of a gun... I've been trying to sort this out for a couple of months. It
is the 2xFSAA that did the trick. I thought I had tried that but I probably
made a mistake in which rasterizer(?) the game was using. This time I
switched 2xFSAA on in D3D Glide and GPL is now running like it did when I
first got the card. Musta tried 2xFSAA first, eh? Then I realized it was
slower and switched it off. Been driving me crazy. Also, Eldred, set your
graphics to manual on the Advanced screen. If you need more juice, start by
taking things out of your mirrors. I'm racing in the rain with a K6-III 450
at 800x600x70/140PO at most tracks. At 640x480 it's fluid.

By way of possible interest:

STCC2 also runs better with 2xFSAA on.

As a work around I've been running the same GP3 on the same hardware from
another instance of Win98SE that I have on a different drive. GP3 ran fine,
(voodoo5 5500) until I found out that my old diamond Monster control panel
was running in Display Properties. I edited out all reference to it in the
registry and msconfig and yep! V5 slow down. Massive PO. I restored the old
registry, got the Diamond Monster control panel back and GP3 ran fine once
again. With the V5 set to Best Performance.

GP3 and STCC2 are the only games that try to start my modem on the Diamond
Monster drive. On this drive, the one I've turned 2xFSAA on to make them
work, they do not try to start the modem.

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mark jeangerar

GP3 framerate

by mark jeangerar » Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:19:28

I hope this isn't redundant. I have horrible usenet service and get launched
for months at a time. But in case it hasn't been said:

STCC2 may run better on a VooDoo 5 5500 system if the graphics are set to
2xFSAA instead of Fastest Performance. It does run much better on my system
with the (presumably) slower setting.

Right click>Properties>Settings>Advanced>3DFx Anti-Aliasing.   There is a
drop down with several choices. I don't know whether STCC2 uses Glide or D3D
so I did both.

Much better frame rates.

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Eldre

GP3 framerate

by Eldre » Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:31:03



>Also, Eldred, set your
>graphics to manual on the Advanced screen. If you need more juice, start by
>taking things out of your mirrors. I'm racing in the rain with a K6-III 450
>at 800x600x70/140PO at most tracks. At 640x480 it's fluid.

Yep, someone else suggested using manual settings for the graphics, too.  I
usually start with the mirrors anyway...<g>

Eldred
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0x4E0x6F0x7

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by 0x4E0x6F0x7 » Mon, 13 Aug 2001 05:45:03

On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:19:28 -0600, "mark jeangerard"


>Right click>Properties>Settings>Advanced>3DFx Anti-Aliasing.   There is a
>drop down with several choices. I don't know whether STCC2 uses Glide or D3D
>so I did both.

>Much better frame rates.

It uses D3D.

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