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what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

Don Wilsh

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by Don Wilsh » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 04:15:56


I doubt i could ever control the reviews.. lol.. wishful thinking but the
editors
arent puppets.   I gave the demo to all the sites.. they wrote what they
wanted.

DW

Don Wilsh

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by Don Wilsh » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 04:16:29

Ask Eric..

I havent talked to him since he owed me $2000 about 3 years ago.. you might
be right

DW


> Hmm that site gives no indication it is "coming soon", rather it seems to
> explain why things are delayed and messed up.



> > Promoters life is never dull...

> > Here is the TV program.. coming soon to you..

> > http://www.rallyracer.com

> > Don Wilshe





> > > > And last but not least, AFAIK, Don is not a spammer

> > > Rally Racer or whatever the vaporware reality show was titled comes to
> > > mind...

> > > -jde

ymenar

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by ymenar » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 04:38:00


> >3. He rubs alot of people the wrong way.

> That could describe Francois as well. :-)

I "rubbed" alot of people in the wrong day, that's the difference :-P

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

J.D. Elli

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by J.D. Elli » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 05:31:37


Nice attempt at playing coy and innocent.

Given a few seconds with Google, I found this from last January:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=don+wilshe+ratbag+review+group:rec....

"These are for PC Games and we
try and support RATBAGs as they do PC games still unlike several of
the other companies that have bailed exclusively to consoles.   So
if you feel you can do a good review and get the word out.  Contact
me."

Managed to take a thinly-veiled shot at Papy, and ask for reviewers
capable-enough for "good reviews" in two sentences.  Given your penchant for
happy, I seriously doubt you meant "good" in terms of quality of the review,
but just the outcome.

-jde

J.D. Elli

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by J.D. Elli » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 05:34:53


insert "talk" there

Schoone

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by Schoone » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 06:05:06

Actually no, you wouldn't give the demo to all sites, you specifically asked
for specifics on hit counts, members, etc before you offered demons and
swag.




> > You were looking for sites to do favourable reviews for Ratbag titles
and
> > help "get the word out" on these.  Basically a paid review IMHO.  You
only
> > wanted sites with high hit counts and the impression I got was the
review
> > had to be good for the title.  Wasn't like you wanted an unbiased
> assessment
> > of the titles in question.

> I doubt i could ever control the reviews.. lol.. wishful thinking but the
> editors
> arent puppets.   I gave the demo to all the sites.. they wrote what they
> wanted.

> DW

Schoone

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by Schoone » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 06:05:31

So your saying its a scam?


> Ask Eric..

> I havent talked to him since he owed me $2000 about 3 years ago.. you
might
> be right

> DW



> > Hmm that site gives no indication it is "coming soon", rather it seems
to
> > explain why things are delayed and messed up.



> > > Promoters life is never dull...

> > > Here is the TV program.. coming soon to you..

> > > http://www.rallyracer.com

> > > Don Wilshe





> > > > > And last but not least, AFAIK, Don is not a spammer

> > > > Rally Racer or whatever the vaporware reality show was titled comes
to
> > > > mind...

> > > > -jde

Don Wilsh

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by Don Wilsh » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 06:13:22

I can see now why you said what you did.  I was asking for a good
review.  of course a critic of mine would think i meant a pro ratbag
and non objective review.   A supporter of mine would think i was
asking for a good review.

I meant good review..  A good review to me is only the truth..

Don Wilshe


Here is a little update on the resources we have for reviewers.  Again
looking for websites that review games and are interested in RATBAG
latest products about to be released.  These are for PC Games and we
try and support RATBAGs as they do PC games still unlike several of
the other companies that have bailed exclusively to consoles.   So
if you feel you can do a good review and get the word out.  Contact
me.

Here are some resources I got today from RATBAG you will get!

1. Interviews with the team or team members
2. Promotional samples limit 50 (available on release)
3. Artwork - Screen shots, logo's etc.
4. Demo - Available First week of Feb
5. The lastest available review code.




> > I doubt i could ever control the reviews.. lol.. wishful thinking but
the
> > editors
> > arent puppets.   I gave the demo to all the sites.. they wrote what they
> > wanted.

> Nice attempt at playing coy and innocent.

> Given a few seconds with Google, I found this from last January:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=don+wilshe+ratbag+review+group:rec....
Don Wilsh

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by Don Wilsh » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 06:14:00

i didnt say that.. i havent talked to eric in 3 years or so..

dw


> So your saying its a scam?



> > Ask Eric..

> > I havent talked to him since he owed me $2000 about 3 years ago.. you
> might
> > be right

> > DW



> > > Hmm that site gives no indication it is "coming soon", rather it seems
> to
> > > explain why things are delayed and messed up.



> > > > Promoters life is never dull...

> > > > Here is the TV program.. coming soon to you..

> > > > http://www.rallyracer.com

> > > > Don Wilshe





> > > > > > And last but not least, AFAIK, Don is not a spammer

> > > > > Rally Racer or whatever the vaporware reality show was titled
comes
> to
> > > > > mind...

> > > > > -jde

Schoone

what's up with the Don Wilshe stuff

by Schoone » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:17:18

You went from saying "Here is the TV program.. coming soon to you" to
claiming you haven't talked to them in 3 years since they owed you money.
So are you involved or not?  Don't fall of that fence as you try and walk
both sides Don ;-)

Anyway it doesn't matter, was just pointing out some of the issues people
had run into with you.


> i didnt say that.. i havent talked to eric in 3 years or so..

> dw



> > So your saying its a scam?



> > > Ask Eric..

> > > I havent talked to him since he owed me $2000 about 3 years ago.. you
> > might
> > > be right

> > > DW



> > > > Hmm that site gives no indication it is "coming soon", rather it
seems
> > to
> > > > explain why things are delayed and messed up.



> > > > > Promoters life is never dull...

> > > > > Here is the TV program.. coming soon to you..

> > > > > http://www.rallyracer.com

> > > > > Don Wilshe





> > > > > > > And last but not least, AFAIK, Don is not a spammer

> > > > > > Rally Racer or whatever the vaporware reality show was titled
> comes
> > to
> > > > > > mind...

> > > > > > -jde


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