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"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

Kevin F. Gavit

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Kevin F. Gavit » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 08:39:43


> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:13:53 -0000, "Douglas Ellison"



>>> Is it only me, or is "Driven" a copy of  Grand Prix (the movie) 1967  ?

>>Wouldnt be the first time...

>>Independance Day is Henry V
>>10 Things I hate about you is Taming of the Shrew
>>West Side Story is Romeo and Juliet.

>>OK - so they're all Shakespeare examples - but Grand Prix is the
>>Shakespeare of motor-movies, right?

> Wait a second here.  In the case of West Side Story or, more recently,
> Clueless (I think "Emma" is what they were doing with that one) you're
> talking about movies that self-consciously are patterning themselves
> after literary masterpieces in order to tap deep into the psyche of
> the mythologies of Western Civilization.

> If "Driven" is ripping off Grand Prix they are just plagiarizing.

> I don't see how anybody could tell if they were ripping off Grand Prix
> or not, though, because the movie didn't even make a little bit of
> sense.  To top if off, those are CART cars, right?

Yes, they are CART cars, but they weren't intended to be. The script was
written for F1. Stallone and Bernie had a clash of inflated egos, so Sly
switched the venue to CART, but NOT the script.

The reason B.R. is in a wheelchair in Driven is because the charecter is
*actually* intended to be Frank Williams.

So given this, why do you think it should make any sense at all?

KFG

Milhous

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Milhous » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 09:01:06

Blast.  Hmm, well, it could always be squeezed onto 35mm, no?  Hehe...that'd
be pretty sweet, if I could convince 'em at the theater I work at that
showing GP would be a good idea...

Milhouse



> > No, trust me, by how long it stayed at our theater, regular fans didn't
like
> > it either. (One week, I think that's a new record for suckitude.)

> > Hmm...anyone got Grand Prix on 35mm? ;)

> Gramd Prix is shot on 70mm film I think. At least it was shown on a 70mm
> festival in Norway.
> --
>   -asbjxrn

Kevin F. Gavit

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Kevin F. Gavit » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 09:00:46


> Is it only me, or is "Driven" a copy of  Grand Prix (the movie) 1967  ?

> Stefan Zscharnack

Here is my second favorite review of Driven:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Here is my favorite review of Driven, but it isn't for the overly young,
sensitive, or faint of heart:

www.bigempire.com/***/driven.html

KFG

Larr

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Larr » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:37:23

Please do not insult the movie "Grand Prix" by calling Driven a copy of it
:)

Driven is basically Days Of Thunder + Top Gun + Young Frakenstien + Roger
Corman.

But worse...

-Larry


meettonysopra

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by meettonysopra » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:39:42

On Sun, 02 Dec 2001 00:00:46 GMT, "Kevin F. Gavitt"



>> Is it only me, or is "Driven" a copy of  Grand Prix (the movie) 1967  ?

>> Stefan Zscharnack

>Here is my second favorite review of Driven:

>http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/driven.html

Best quote:

"Fortunately for Renny, along came Sylvester Stallone with his
"script" for a car racing movie. Given that this script was probably
about forty pages long and written in crayon..."

LOL.

Larr

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Larr » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 17:11:18

I would have rather seen Demolition Man 2 or something like that.  Now THAT
is a Sly type of movie :)

-Larry


> On Sun, 02 Dec 2001 00:00:46 GMT, "Kevin F. Gavitt"


> >> Is it only me, or is "Driven" a copy of  Grand Prix (the movie) 1967  ?

> >> Stefan Zscharnack

> >Here is my second favorite review of Driven:

> >http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/driven.html

> Best quote:

> "Fortunately for Renny, along came Sylvester Stallone with his
> "script" for a car racing movie. Given that this script was probably
> about forty pages long and written in crayon..."

> LOL.

Peter Horsc

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Peter Horsc » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:47:49

Hallo.
Does anybody know if there is a DVD version of the film: "Grand Prix"
available?
(I just bought the "On any Sunday"-DVD, wich is great.)
If yes, where?

Greetings,

Peter

Kevin F. Gavit

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Kevin F. Gavit » Tue, 04 Dec 2001 12:06:20


> Please do not insult the movie "Grand Prix" by calling Driven a copy of it
> :)

> Driven is basically Days Of Thunder + Top Gun + Young Frakenstien + Roger
> Corman.

> But worse...

> -Larry



>> Is it only me, or is "Driven" a copy of  Grand Prix (the movie) 1967  ?

>> Stefan Zscharnack

If you don't want me to insult Grand Prix, why do you insist on insulting
that other cinimatic masterpiece, Young Frankenstien.

In fact, one could make a pretty good argument that you'ld insulted Roger
Corman as well.

KFG

Dave Henr

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Dave Henr » Tue, 04 Dec 2001 13:57:59

  Young Frankenstein is a classic...!!!! Driven is not...
dave henrie



> > Please do not insult the movie "Grand Prix" by calling Driven a copy of
it
> > :)

> > Driven is basically Days Of Thunder + Top Gun + Young Frakenstien +
Roger
> > Corman.

ymenar

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by ymenar » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:52:53


> In fact, one could make a pretty good argument that you'ld insulted Roger
> Corman as well.

I was about to reply him with that, but you wrote it before me ;-)

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Larr

"Driven" = Grand Prix (the movie)

by Larr » Thu, 06 Dec 2001 04:27:52

LOL!

Anyone not familiar with Roger Corman's, um, works won't understand this :)

-Larry




> > Please do not insult the movie "Grand Prix" by calling Driven a copy of
it
> > :)

> > Driven is basically Days Of Thunder + Top Gun + Young Frakenstien +
Roger
> > Corman.

> > But worse...

> > -Larry



> >> Is it only me, or is "Driven" a copy of  Grand Prix (the movie) 1967  ?

> >> Stefan Zscharnack

> If you don't want me to insult Grand Prix, why do you insist on insulting
> that other cinimatic masterpiece, Young Frankenstien.

> In fact, one could make a pretty good argument that you'ld insulted Roger
> Corman as well.

> KFG


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