rec.autos.simulators

Mr Noonan, I hope you have this on your list of things to do... Trouble is
that it never did host a GP. Too dangerous? The touring cars do a lot of
damage to the scenery every year...

Some starter URL's
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Tony

Andre

On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:24:14 +0100, "Tony Lake"

Would love to see this circit modelled in a sim that has at least half
decent physics.

Cheers,
Rod.

This circuit is generally considered one of the most challenging road
circuits today. It would, indeed, make a brilliant add-on for GPL.

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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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I've seen some excellent bumpercam laps of the circuit but don't have
any on tape...

But I feel it's a circuit only a person that has driven it a number of
times could capture the feel of. TV coverage doesn't show how steep
some of those corners really are.

If your lap was anything like mine (and I'm a revhead of the highest
degree) you hit the anchors right before the big dipper... how they
ever got those 70's V8's taking that at 80kph+ has me in awe, couldn't
understand why the cars were lurching and leaning so badly through
that dip until I drove it ;O

Cheers,
Rod.

And if he picks up GP2 again, he can race the version that was done by Glenn
Durden & friends for this sim...

JoH
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Mt Panorama for GP2 ??? Where Jo ?

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Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

The closest I have seen it on a sim is when someone released a track
for GP2. It is great to be able setup for a race around the track.
Although GP2 may not have the physics, it is a total rush through the
dipper and blast down the straight and continue flat out at the kink.

The track they did was very good and you do get the impression that
you are climbing up the "mountain".

Dave

We can always dream, right? Bathurst in GPL? Please?

Rafe Mc

On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:54:37 +0100, Andre Warringa

Track can be downloaded from (for example)  www.grandprix2.com

Here's the readme file:

15/11//99                                           version 1.0
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Title           : New track: Mount Panorama, Bathurst, NSW, Australia
Filenames       : bathurst_NSW_1999.dat, gp2form.txt, JAD files
Author          : David Richards, Glenn Durden
Nickname        : Davros, Alfa

Description     : Long circuit up and down a mountain.   Touring cars
                  take well over 2 minutes to complete each lap.
                  Used for 1000km endurance races.
Other works     :
Homepage        :

Thanks to       : - Paul Hoad for making the track editor!
                  - Paul Hoad for the object editor primer
                  - Addie for the command library
                  - Addie for the pitlane tutorial
                  - Martijn for the scenery tutorial
                  and many others on the forum.

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* Construction *

Editors used    : Track Editor 0.1.7.6.8
Known Bugs      : None?

Build Time      : about two days

* Other information *

 Features:
  -  Extensive use of the newly understood scenery commands.
  -  Object editing...  
     The crane (turn 1 Interlagos) is now reshaped and retextured
     into being the light posts down the start/finish straight.
     Advert boards reshaped and retextured into large trees, such as at
     turn 1 of this track.
     Small white building (marshal posts?) enlarged and retextured into
     a more useful building.
  -  Hopefully accurate heights (as judged by many viewings of the 1997
     video) and reasonable facsimiles of the armco adverts used.
  -  Camera positions as used by television Ch10.

 Yes this circuit is real, not fictional.

* Installation *

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Bathurst is interesting, but: it has never hosted a GP, and is still
in use for touring car racing, so it's not really a "Grand Prix
Legend". >;->

IMHO, some other tracks should be done first, and I support of course
my home track: the Solitude, a former race track in the forests
partially within the city limits of Stuttgart, Germany.
In the 1950s to mid 60s, several german Motorcycle GPs were hosted
there, plus non-championship F1 races with Clark, Gurney and others.
Huge spectator crowds showed up, 400000 people and more.
A real Grand Prix Legend. ;-)
It's a shame that the younger generation of the local population (like
me) does not know anything about the Solitude race track anymore. The
much safer Hockenheim took over, and the Solitude was used as public
road only.
The track is 11.4 km long and has 45 turns. The Esses in the puzzling
Mahdental section (17 turns in a row) were described by Phil Hill as
being harder to memorize than the whole Nordschleife.
The Solitude features a tight Exmuehle-like turn, followed by a steep
uphill climb named "Misery". As the track has not only ups, but downs
as well, the total elevation difference adds up to 123m. ;-)
Plus a very fast section on top of the hill, which is about 4km long.
The final straight through the forest leads into downhill sweeps. With
the biggest part of the crowd being there in a stadium-like valley,
the whole experience was similar to that of the Motodrom in
Hockenheim.

See http://www.bawue.de/~matthead/solitude/  for some maps, pictures,
parts of the 1962 program etc.

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Matthias Flatt

For those who don't know, yes, this is real.
The main event for most is the V8 touring cars, but the Formula One cars
from the GPL era
also race on both days. Yes, RACE not a parade lap. Sir Jack is also
there. In fact last year
was the only time in his entire racing career was he forced to retire
due to a shunt.
I will be there with my camera this year, especially since Jack will be
back in a '67 Brabham.
I'm so e***d to see an actual live GPL race!!!
http://www.racesimcentral.net/'ll
get the programme and publish
the actual cars that will be competing.

Brad