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Craig.

Northfield F1
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I don't know about that but does anyone else use the Sprint in GPL? -
How does it compare to other wheels for this game?

Thanks
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Mike Buckley    

Craig.

It would require some re-wiring of the unit to do so.  However, if you
disconnect the pedals, you can use the paddles for brake and
accelerator.  The paddles are on split axes.

The paddles are:
Right = Joystick A Vertical (Y1)
Left = Joystick B Horizontal (X2)

The pedals are:
Accelerator = Joystick 2 Vertical (Y2)
Brake = Joystick 2 Vertical (Y2)

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% I don't know about that but does anyone else use the Sprint in GPL? -
% How does it compare to other wheels for this game?

Due to the "toy" nature of the pedals, I would use the Sprint in GPL
with the paddles assigned to brake and accelerator.  You can however,
also use the pedals if you want to assign one to the clutch.

In GPL as "generic" input, you can have the pedals plugged in and
use one of the pedals for an analog clutch (should work with GP2 as
well).  In "generic" input and DOS with the pedals connected the
following are the axes for the Sprint unit:

Left paddle = Joystick 2 Horizontal (X2)
Right paddle = Joystick 1 Vertical (Y1)
Brake pedal = Joystick 2 Vertical (Y2)
Gas pedal = Joystick 2 Vertical (Y2)
Steering = Joystick 1 Horizontal (X1)
Buttons = 4 (Joystick 1 & 2)

For the price, I think the Sprint is a fair wheel for use in GPL.
However, I much prefer Thrustmaster's Super Sport line for its better
precision and excellent design of the pedals.  Of course the latter
costs more :).

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Using the Sprint in generic mode I can't assign the paddles to
*anything*, I guess before I do anything else I'm going to have to
download the latest drivers :(.
I find the 'toy' pedals ok - but then I've never used any other wheel...
Got to find an old tennis ball or something to stiffen the brake up

Thanks
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Mike Buckley    

% Using the Sprint in generic mode I can't assign the paddles to
% *anything*, I guess before I do anything else I'm going to have to
% download the latest drivers :(.
% I find the 'toy' pedals ok - but then I've never used any other wheel...
% Got to find an old tennis ball or something to stiffen the brake up

In generic mode, you must calibrate the wheel, paddles, and I would try
just pressing one pedal.  Calibrate in this order, then select steering,
gas, brake, clutch in this order.

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  I'm considering buying the Sprint at a local store. Does anybody use
  the wheel with CH Pedals? I'd like to know for sure that I can yank
  the Sprint pedals (which, to put it mildly, don't look very
  impressive) out and plug my existing CH set in. Are there any hidden
  surprises or custom TM stuff I should know about?

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Is the Sprint BETTER than the old TM GP1? ? ?

I have tried to convince Trevor Thomas to custom make a wheel/paddle combo
but he's pretty busy...

Tim A. Deatherage

"Admitted Sim ***"

Compared to the GP1, the Sprint is better in the following areas:
- separate axis for gas and brake paddles (GP1 paddles are on the same axis)
- much sleeker, with more secure and easier to use clamps
- 4 buttons on spokes (versus 2 for GP1), certainly helps with GPL where I
assigned buttons for upshift, downshift, clutch, and raising arm to let
leaders lap me :(
- steering wheel is attached to body more securely

Downsides compared to GP1:
- I had a lot of trouble getting the Sprint to work.  I couldn't use the
drivers that came on the CD, nor the newer ones available over the web.  I
ended up having to configure it as a Nascar Pro (or some other TM).  This
may have been due to the gameport on the Diamond Monster Sound M80.
However, I could not get the wheel working at all with the Turtle Beach
Montego gameport on my brother's new Dell 400.
- it only supports separate axis for gas and brake paddles - these can't be
configured to be on the same axis for games that only support a common
gas/brake axis (MTM2, CPR, TOCA)
- I prefer the thicker wheel of the GP1 over the anatomic Sprint wheel

My recommendation - get the Sprint from a store where you can return it.  If
it works, great.  If not, stick with the GP1.

Brian

Something is different.  I can always tell the difference in a wheel
when exiting turn 2 at Taladega in Nascar Racing II or 1999.  It's hard
to explain.  I've got over 40,000 laps at that track, and I've got my
drift out at that track down to perfection, and if I change to certain
wheels, I nose out way too soon and end up brushing the wall...

Go figure :)

-Larry

%   I'm considering buying the Sprint at a local store. Does anybody use
%   the wheel with CH Pedals? I'd like to know for sure that I can yank
%   the Sprint pedals (which, to put it mildly, don't look very
%   impressive) out and plug my existing CH set in. Are there any hidden
%   surprises or custom TM stuff I should know about?

I should work with the CH pedals.  However, if the pedals are mapped to
the same axes as the paddles, you will lose the use of the paddles.  You
should be able to calibrate the pedals (but do not press the paddles
during calibration or you will more than likely lose the pedals).

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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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: I should work with the CH pedals.  However, if the pedals are mapped to
: the same axes as the paddles, you will lose the use of the paddles.  You
: should be able to calibrate the pedals (but do not press the paddles
: during calibration or you will more than likely lose the pedals).

i have the TM FormulaSprint, which is (i believe) the uk name for the
Sprint wheel.  some time ago i attacked it with a soldering iron to
put the pedals on separate axes (sp?).  here's some info that may help
you (i dont know anything about the CH pedals.)  in the rewiring i
lost the operation of my paddles, and now have a 3 axis system, which
is ok for gpl, but really confuses gp2.

each pot in the pedal base has 3 wires coming off it, and all 6 wires
go to the connector which is a 6 pin connector (same as a small pc
keybord one).  there's no clever wiring done in the pedal base.

on the wheel unit side of things, only 2 wires (+earth) from the 6
make it into the picture.  all the wiring up of the pots in parallel
to give single axis control is done inside the connector.

so i guess if you want to use CH pedals for separate axis things, it
wont work straight out of the box.   for single axis control, things
should work, if the  connector specs. are the same.

martin.
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  One of these days I'll probably just give up and buy the first round
  thing with a plug in it. :P

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